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ELA

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #756 on: August 21, 2020, 11:23:43 PM »
Even the guy making up fake positive news, is now making up fake negative news


https://twitter.com/SirYacht/status/1296962455420182529?s=19
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #757 on: August 22, 2020, 12:39:28 AM »
Not entirely relevant to this thread. Iowa high schools are playing football this fall. Out-of-state high school D-1 recruits are transferring to Iowa high schools from out-of-state.

https://www.hawkcentral.com/story/sports/high-school/recruiting/2020/08/21/iowa-wr-recruit-arland-bruce-iv-transfers-ankeny-play-alongside-brody-brecht-hawkeyes-olathe/3409452001/

At the D-1 level football cannot be played in some conferences despite significant testing. In Iowa high schools they play with no known testing plan. Time will tell how this experiment goes. I suspect it will be more painful for parents than for kids.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #758 on: August 22, 2020, 12:48:30 AM »
Utah finished up week 2 of HS FB. With fans. 

So far no one has keeled over dead. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #759 on: August 22, 2020, 12:59:25 PM »
Quote from: GopherRock on August 21, 2020, 10:48:49 AM
In one of the early pressers after camp was supposed to start, Fleck stated that everyone on the team, to a man, agreed with the decision to postpone.


So what should this fairly tell me about Minnesota football in light of the Big Ten's bigger guns voicing opposition against sticking to the sidelines like the Pac 12 is content doing all season? Minnesota played like a conference big boy last season, showing swagger, moxy, and a determination against the traditional powers. But come another chance to stand with the big boys it looks like Minnesota is opting to fall back in line with Illinois, Indiana, etc.
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« Reply #760 on: August 22, 2020, 02:40:47 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 22, 2020, 12:59:25 PM

So what should this fairly tell me about Minnesota football in light of the Big Ten's bigger guns voicing opposition against sticking to the sidelines like the Pac 12 is content doing all season? Minnesota played like a conference big boy last season, showing swagger, moxy, and a determination against the traditional powers. But come another chance to stand with the big boys it looks like Minnesota is opting to fall back in line with Illinois, Indiana, etc.
They will claim another national championship.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #761 on: August 22, 2020, 02:51:21 PM »
Quote from: CatsbyAZ on August 22, 2020, 12:59:25 PM

So what should this fairly tell me about Minnesota football in light of the Big Ten's bigger guns voicing opposition against sticking to the sidelines like the Pac 12 is content doing all season? Minnesota played like a conference big boy last season, showing swagger, moxy, and a determination against the traditional powers. But come another chance to stand with the big boys it looks like Minnesota is opting to fall back in line with Illinois, Indiana, etc.
You're not big time unless you throw a fit. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #762 on: August 22, 2020, 03:10:34 PM »
It was a clear divide, with the four helmet coaches making noise, and the rest tucking tail. 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #763 on: August 22, 2020, 04:54:12 PM »
As of right now we are playing football in Arizona starting the last week of Sept. Hope it doesn't change. I am ready to get back on the field.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #764 on: August 22, 2020, 06:20:17 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 22, 2020, 12:48:30 AM
Utah finished up week 2 of HS FB. With fans.

So far no one has keeled over dead.
You're really smart.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #765 on: August 22, 2020, 06:28:28 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on August 22, 2020, 06:20:17 PM
You're really smart.


Thanks.

Wish I could say the same about you, but.... 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #766 on: August 22, 2020, 07:12:50 PM »
So, I'm guessing this is going to give it a go, right?  The SEC et al. are kind of dug in now.  I suppose some massive outbreak early could divert them from starting.

I have not read (yet) of an outbreak, or even a one off.  I don't know the rate of test false positives, really, with whatever test they are using.  You have 120 or so players trainers coaches etc.  A one percent FP rate ...

And that's if no one contracts it.

So, is this a go?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #767 on: August 23, 2020, 10:29:24 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 22, 2020, 07:12:50 PM
So, I'm guessing this is going to give it a go, right?  The SEC et al. are kind of dug in now.  I suppose some massive outbreak early could divert them from starting.

I have not read (yet) of an outbreak, or even a one off.  I don't know the rate of test false positives, really, with whatever test they are using.  You have 120 or so players trainers coaches etc.  A one percent FP rate ...

And that's if no one contracts it.

So, is this a go?

Nah.  Cases will inevitably rise at all universities, some football players will get caught up in that, and that'll put the final nail in the coffin.  It's still 3 weeks away from the ACC's start date, and both UNC and NCSU have abandoned on-campus school due to a rise in cases.  Many more will follow in the coming weeks.

And we're 5 weeks away from B12 and SEC start dates, which is plenty of time for the case numbers to rise at all member universities and torpedo any chances of a season.

But looking at the unhappiness with what has happened in the B1G, the conference commissioners of the ACC, SEC, and B12 will wait until the very last moment to cancel, in an attempt to show the public "Hey, we tried as hard as we could."  I think that was the real problem with the way the B1G handled it, there was simply no reason to make the decision to cancel at the time they did.  They could have kept on kicking the can down the road, same as the other 3 conferences still entertaining the idea of football.  They made a premature announcement when there was no need to do so.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #768 on: August 23, 2020, 10:46:39 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 23, 2020, 10:29:24 AM
Nah.  Cases will inevitably rise at all universities, some football players will get caught up in that, and that'll put the final nail in the coffin.  It's still 3 weeks away from the ACC's start date, and both UNC and NCSU have abandoned on-campus school due to a rise in cases.  Many more will follow in the coming weeks.

And we're 5 weeks away from B12 and SEC start dates, which is plenty of time for the case numbers to rise at all member universities and torpedo any chances of a season.

But looking at the unhappiness with what has happened in the B1G, the conference commissioners of the ACC, SEC, and B12 will wait until the very last moment to cancel, in an attempt to show the public "Hey, we tried as hard as we could."  I think that was the real problem with the way the B1G handled it, there was simply no reason to make the decision to cancel at the time they did.  They could have kept on kicking the can down the road, same as the other 3 conferences still entertaining the idea of football.  They made a premature announcement when there was no need to do so.

I don’t know all this to be true, but I really, really think it’s the case.

The thing is there’s some minimum number where it starts looking weird. My assumption is the academically inclined part of the ACC gets cold feet, and if you lose the ACC, it’s unlikely the rest stay with it.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #769 on: August 23, 2020, 11:03:34 AM »
I think we're in agreement.  I merely note the SEC has sort of dug into its position, so it may be more recalcitrant to reverse course.

I lean to thinking some games will be played.
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