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Topic: Odds we have a football season poll

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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #504 on: August 16, 2020, 10:11:21 AM »
The point is there will always be something.  You can poo-poo all the reality you want, but 20 year olds and bubbles aren't compatible. 

This experiment - and that's what it is - is a failure before it even begins.  I'll hang up and listen.


So students of that age are going to catch it whether they play football or not? 

All the more reason not to cancel. 
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WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #505 on: August 16, 2020, 10:15:59 AM »
I live in a college town. Sorority rush started this weekend. Many blonds. Many short shorts.

This is gonna be tricky.
What are you planning?You're a little to old for a frat boy aren't you?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #506 on: August 16, 2020, 10:16:50 AM »

Google "athletes that died from influenza"

There are a lot of them. 
1919, 20, 21, 28, 29, 31, 34, 35, 36, 37, 42, 44
WWH: 1952, 54, 55, 57, 58, 60, 61, 62, 63, 65, 67, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75
1979, 81, 82, 84, 87, 94, 98
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #507 on: August 16, 2020, 10:19:44 AM »
Back in the day for sure
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #508 on: August 16, 2020, 10:29:42 AM »
University of Michigan cardiologist Dr. Venk Murthy is questioning data used by the Big Ten to cancel its fall sports season. “It could be reasonable to cancel, just not on the basis of this paper which is highlighted extensively,” Murthy, professor of Preventive Cardiology at The UM Samuel and Jean Frankel Cardiovascular Center, tweeted in reference to a paper being relied upon by the Big Ten. Murthy and Darrel Francis, Professor of Cardiology at the National Heart and Lung Institute at Imperial College in London have laid out why the Big Ten shouldn’t be using the flawed paper as basis for cancellation.

“If we as a profession are happy to retweet gibberish, we can’t blame universities, sports associations and governments for talking nonsense,” Francis said about the paper in question.

Murthy concludes the paper being used by the Big Ten shouldn’t have been used. “Bad statistics and lots of moderate to severe effusions, LGE, etc in their controls means to me it is a paper that we should put little stock in this paper, regardless,” he wrote on Twitter.

Professor Francis agrees: “Yes, I do think we should disregard it for now. The lead author did message me after my thread. I recommended they temporarily retract it pending changes, because otherwise it would keep misleading people.”

Earlier this week, Outkick’s Dr. David Chao addressed the myocarditis study divide between the Big Ten and the SEC.


https://www.outkick.com/university-of-michigan-cardiologist-questions-flawed-data-relied-on-by-big-ten-to-cancel-season/
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #509 on: August 16, 2020, 10:30:24 AM »
Back in the day for sure
the Spanish flu took far too many
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #510 on: August 16, 2020, 10:33:44 AM »
For B10 fans to side with the SEC experts over their B10 experts....that's ideology and/or politics.

That's all I'm going to say.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #511 on: August 16, 2020, 10:35:26 AM »
University of Michigan cardiologist

an "expert" from the Big Ten
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #512 on: August 16, 2020, 10:41:35 AM »
For B10 fans to side with the SEC experts over their B10 experts....that's ideology and/or politics.

That's all I'm going to say.
Translation:   I am right and if you disagree you are being political.  

par for the course.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #513 on: August 16, 2020, 10:41:51 AM »
I think we have several "relative risk" corridors here:

Football players attending class on campus
The above plus playing football and practicing
The same group staying at home (doing what college kids do)
The same group on campus with no classes except on line
Elderly relatives of the above.

Anything else?

Do you see a significant risk difference in those scenarios?

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #514 on: August 16, 2020, 10:45:45 AM »
University of Michigan cardiologist Dr. Venk Murthy is questioning data used by the Big Ten to cancel its fall sports season. “It could be reasonable to cancel, just not on the basis of this paper which is highlighted extensively,” Murthy, professor of Preventive Cardiology at The UM Samuel and Jean Frankel Cardiovascular Center, tweeted in reference to a paper being relied upon by the Big Ten. Murthy and Darrel Francis, Professor of Cardiology at the National Heart and Lung Institute at Imperial College in London have laid out why the Big Ten shouldn’t be using the flawed paper as basis for cancellation.

“If we as a profession are happy to retweet gibberish, we can’t blame universities, sports associations and governments for talking nonsense,” Francis said about the paper in question.

Murthy concludes the paper being used by the Big Ten shouldn’t have been used. “Bad statistics and lots of moderate to severe effusions, LGE, etc in their controls means to me it is a paper that we should put little stock in this paper, regardless,” he wrote on Twitter.

Professor Francis agrees: “Yes, I do think we should disregard it for now. The lead author did message me after my thread. I recommended they temporarily retract it pending changes, because otherwise it would keep misleading people.”

Earlier this week, Outkick’s Dr. David Chao addressed the myocarditis study divide between the Big Ten and the SEC.


https://www.outkick.com/university-of-michigan-cardiologist-questions-flawed-data-relied-on-by-big-ten-to-cancel-season/
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #515 on: August 16, 2020, 10:48:10 AM »
I think we have several "relative risk" corridors here:

Football players attending class on campus
The above plus playing football and practicing
The same group staying at home (doing what college kids do)
The same group on campus with no classes except on line
Elderly relatives of the above.

Anything else?

Do you see a significant risk difference in those scenarios?
The above plus playing football and practicing

the least risky
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #516 on: August 16, 2020, 10:48:49 AM »
For B10 fans to side with the SEC experts over their B10 experts....that's ideology and/or politics.

That's all I'm going to say.
Why do fans of Big Ten schools have to be in lock step with every decision made by the conference? You aren’t.

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #517 on: August 16, 2020, 11:00:17 AM »
Translation:  I am right and if you disagree you are being political. 

par for the course. 
I don't see any translation needed.  

You keep saying the same thing over and over, but it's not exclusive to me, it's true for EVERYONE ON THE PLANET.

Yes, I think I'm right (just as you think you're right).  Yes, if I disagree with you, I think you're wrong (just as you think I'm wrong when you disagree with me).  

Just a bizarre criticism of me (ie - everyone on the planet).
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