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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #42 on: July 02, 2020, 11:27:37 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on July 02, 2020, 04:40:40 PM
I have noticed only three types of reactions from media or scientists:
Wait till they get a load of the Guy with the Runza Cart
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #43 on: July 03, 2020, 01:52:29 AM »
I do not view this as a "media issue." Coronavirus is a health sciences problem, a medical issue, and an epidemiology issue.

That said, and back on topic: I suspect the coaching staffs and athletic directors making hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, and who have big mortgages they are paying, will push forward until the point of resistance results in death(s).

I suspect that about half of the weeks during the season D-1 teams will have 5 or more COVID-infected players. A lot of games will not be played. When an O-Lineman or diabetic player, or maybe two, dies, the season will end. It may also end if two or more coaches die from it. 



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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #44 on: July 03, 2020, 06:52:21 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on July 03, 2020, 01:52:29 AM
I do not view this as a "media issue." Coronavirus is a health sciences problem, a medical issue, and an epidemiology issue.

That said, and back on topic: I suspect the coaching staffs and athletic directors making hundreds of thousands of dollars or more, and who have big mortgages they are paying, will push forward until the point of resistance results in death(s).

I suspect that about half of the weeks during the season D-1 teams will have 5 or more COVID-infected players. A lot of games will not be played. When an O-Lineman or diabetic player, or maybe two, dies, the season will end. It may also end if two or more coaches die from it.




I don't think coaches will push for it.. they get paid regardless. In fact, I don’t think they will have any say in it.  So, we need to find another bad guy.  Your post indicates doom and gloom and looks for blame.  But yes, it’s about science.  
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #45 on: July 03, 2020, 08:51:00 AM »
IF there were a reliable swab test that gave results in under an hour, this all would change.  I don't know how much credence to put into the availability of such a test of course.  It would make appointments necessary to avoid long lines.

My notion is you'd take your ticket to the test station at your time and get tested and then come back in an hour to get your ticket validated.

Of course, you might sell your ticket to someone else so that would need to be managed.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #46 on: July 03, 2020, 10:35:25 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 02, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
Actually, GREAT Post.  The key line of course being  “If you accept the logic regarding the recent demonstrations”.

Clearly, many young people did.  The media had been telling them, wear a mask, social distance! But when the protests started, that same media not only went silent on the Covid aspect of it, they glorified the protesting. 

here is the problem....I don’t think those same media voices even believed what they were selling by staying silent.  Selective memory I guess. So not only will the media erupt if there are fans in the stands, they will actually be right this time, and we won’t see it.  It’s too dangerous, just like the protesting was in most cases, and will lead to rapid, unnecessary spread, just like the protests did.
the media sucks
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #47 on: July 03, 2020, 01:46:13 PM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on July 02, 2020, 10:33:02 PM
Actually, GREAT Post.  The key line of course being  “If you accept the logic regarding the recent demonstrations”.

Clearly, many young people did.  The media had been telling them, wear a mask, social distance! But when the protests started, that same media not only went silent on the Covid aspect of it, they glorified the protesting. 

here is the problem....I don’t think those same media voices even believed what they were selling by staying silent.  Selective memory I guess. So not only will the media erupt if there are fans in the stands, they will actually be right this time, and we won’t see it.  It’s too dangerous, just like the protesting was in most cases, and will lead to rapid, unnecessary spread, just like the protests did.
The quoted post of from a media member.

I’ll take everyone’s advice and not trust him either.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #48 on: July 03, 2020, 10:13:12 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on June 29, 2020, 01:31:18 PM
Anyone suggesting/voting fans will be involved is in a special kind of fantasyland.
IMO, if fans are not involved there will be no CFB. They would never hear the end of, "why are you making student athletes participate in an environment where fans are not allowed?" 
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #49 on: July 03, 2020, 10:52:21 PM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on June 30, 2020, 05:43:17 PM
Grinnell College just canceled their D-III football season. I am not sure that what Grinnell College plays can be characterized as college football. You can look them up and see what I mean.

They didn't play the final seven-games last season.
I did look them up because my Grandson's last collegiate game at Beloit in 2017 was against Grinnell. He had 55 yards on 5 carries.

Grinnell's issue is not with the virus. It is with numbers. They had a 38 man roster in 2019 with 20 O, 16 D, and 2 K/P. IIRC, they had several injuries in their first three games which led them to cancel the remainder of the season. They show 29 on their 2020 roster so cancelling was a no brainer.


http://pioneers.grinnell.edu/sports/football/roster/2019
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #50 on: July 04, 2020, 07:44:40 AM »
I can imagine their coach strolling about campus talking to any student who appeared to be somewhat athletic.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #51 on: July 04, 2020, 12:51:39 PM »
https://www.ajc.com/sports/baseball/freddie-freeman-among-four-braves-test-positive-for-covid/oIeYtKsUjXzTUYaEvxaZmK/

So, does this shut down the baseball experiment before it starts?  I presume this won't be an isolated event.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #52 on: July 04, 2020, 01:10:55 PM »
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #53 on: July 04, 2020, 01:59:46 PM »
Many of the players go to the training staff before or after practice.  The go to the weight room.  Is there anyway they can practicably distance?  I would think if one person is infected, it would spread quickly even if they test everyone daily.  Even the most modern facilities have fairly crowded dressing rooms, showers, training rooms, and a lot of shared equipment.

I don't this can stop at 4, or 2, or whatever the figure happens to be.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #54 on: July 04, 2020, 03:25:31 PM »
It's a cluster fuq and no sports season will be completed.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #55 on: July 04, 2020, 03:28:16 PM »
I had thought PERHAPS there was a shot at isolating pros and keeping them uninfected.  It appears that chance has come and gone.

I'd be shocked if only two MLB teams report positives.  One you have ONE positive, it strikes me as unlikely it can end there.  Trainers are going to catch it .....
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