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847badgerfan

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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #154 on: August 02, 2020, 07:07:31 PM »
Quote from: ELA on August 02, 2020, 06:36:25 PM
Seems like the schools are reacting well to the players voicing their concerns


https://twitter.com/TheoLawson_SR/status/1290038799569838082?s=20
Good. Playing football and getting a free education is not a right, and nobody forces players to play.

I think people forget this.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #155 on: August 02, 2020, 07:19:59 PM »
There's nothing forcing us to have college football at all
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #156 on: August 02, 2020, 07:41:31 PM »
I don't think we will, unless there is some validity to some recent articles suggesting immunity for many of us. Still have a month or so to make a final decision.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #157 on: August 02, 2020, 08:48:25 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 02, 2020, 07:41:31 PM
I don't think we will, unless there is some validity to some recent articles suggesting immunity for many of us. Still have a month or so to make a final decision.
Not much suggesting that MLB players have immunity.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #158 on: August 02, 2020, 09:08:59 PM »
The Players of the Pac-12 will opt-out of fall camp and game participation due to COVID-19 and other serious concerns unless the conference guarantees in writing to protect and benefit both scholarship athletes and walk-ons. #WeAreUnited

so what are they really asking for?

and what are their other serious concerns?
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #159 on: August 02, 2020, 09:51:48 PM »
Quote from: CWSooner on August 02, 2020, 08:48:25 PM
Not much suggesting that MLB players have immunity.
MLB is dominated by people who have little regard for social distancing, etc. MLB players are not the sharpest knives in the drawer either. They like to spit. It's gross, but I digress.

The main problem with this is, if you read the studies, is that black and brown people are far less likely to have the immunities. I don't know why, but that's what I've read.

Early on in this thing, it was thought that black people wouldn't get it. Kinda like masks wouldn't help. Or there was no evidence of human spread.

It's the president's fault. All of it. The house loudspeaker says so.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #160 on: August 02, 2020, 09:53:21 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 02, 2020, 09:08:59 PM
The Players of the Pac-12 will opt-out of fall camp and game participation due to COVID-19 and other serious concerns unless the conference guarantees in writing to protect and benefit both scholarship athletes and walk-ons. #WeAreUnited

so what are they really asking for?

and what are their other serious concerns?
WSU has already dismissed players who came on to this movement. Playing football is not a right.

If you say you're not going to play, the boss can fire you.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #161 on: August 02, 2020, 09:58:45 PM »



i understand and agree with you

how do these players think the schools can "protect" them and what would signing a piece of paper do for any of them?

what are their demands?

I see statements about we are human beings not merely for other's entertainment....... OK, great.

Hollywood can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

but what do these players want?  a guarantee from the college or the conference that they won't get COVID?  no one can  assure anyone of that
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #162 on: August 02, 2020, 10:23:32 PM »
Correct.

And yeah, Hollywood can go to Hell. Where is Lex Luthor when you need him? Superman F'd up. He should have just let him do his thing.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #163 on: August 03, 2020, 09:42:26 AM »
A group of more than a dozen Pac-12 football players are threatening to boycott, with one of their many demands being that conference Commissioner Larry Scott, school administrators and coaches voluntarily and drastically reduce "excessive pay."

There's part of my answer

how does this help the players?

are they just trying to do the right thing for humanity?

perhaps they should demand that hollywood actors and the musical artists they listen to take a huge cut in pay - voluntarily
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #164 on: August 03, 2020, 09:48:07 AM »
Quote from: ELA on July 31, 2020, 01:03:22 PM
The NFL unveiled one.

JJ Watt said he'd sit out the season rather than play in one.  Hard to breath, getting fogged up, etc...  The old visors never used to cover the mouths.  But don't college hockey players wear full clear face shields?
I believe hockey players in college use them...   I realize they don't cover mouths, but at least spit/fluids would not be shared directly.
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #165 on: August 03, 2020, 09:48:36 AM »
One of the other demands is that 50% of the revenue go to the players. NFL...
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #166 on: August 03, 2020, 09:51:54 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
One of the other demands is that 50% of the revenue go to the players. NFL...
well, they may as well have asked for the moon

they will have more time for their studies this way, hopefully they can get a loan for the tuition and room and board
good luck at life without the privilege of being a great athlete
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Re: Odds we have a football season poll
« Reply #167 on: August 03, 2020, 09:54:05 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2020, 09:48:36 AM
One of the other demands is that 50% of the revenue go to the players. NFL...


Most Ath Dept do not have 50% margins....  Either the PAC10 football players involved do not understand margin vs revenue or they are looking for a complete restructure.  This restructure would be something in line of athletes are paid but no longer on scholarship... they'd have to pay for everything, including meals.  Title IX is also not considered in these demands...
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