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ELA · « **Reply #140 on:** October 22, 2023, 04:39:11 PM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on October 22, 2023, 04:01:01 PM

this is exactly what happens. co-operate with the NCAA even a little bit, and they just bury you and make an example of you. you tell them to f**k right off, refuse to co-operate, tell them to get a subpoena (LOL), block them at every turn- you'll be fine.

Helps if the tv networks, who run the sport now, want you on. There's a reason that in the Adidas scandal, out of the four schools accused; Oklahoma State was the one hammered. CBS paid too much money to allow a tournament with no Kansas, Arizona and/or Louisville, if they can help it.

The reason ESPN ran the MSU story back in 2019? They send out FOIA requests to multiple schools, and MSU was the only one who fought them on it. So ESPN decided to dig themselves. Then MSU, mid-story, submitted their data on reporting and punishments when it came to athletes and Title IX, and they were squarely in the middle on number, and actually had athletes found responsible at a HIGHER rate than most schools. So if they had just complied, they'd be a middling number in a story. Instead they became a context free story that came off way worse than if they had just complied with the initial request

GopherRock · « **Reply #141 on:** October 22, 2023, 11:25:32 PM »

This morning was the first day since 1993 that this was the scene at Bierman Hall.

https://twitter.com/N0ELTHOMPSON/status/1716261088122253543?t=TiLEPLbpK-H4djIRTU8biQ&s=19

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #142 on:** October 23, 2023, 12:11:44 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on October 22, 2023, 11:23:52 AM

it’s been broken. SEC broke it with all the paying of players so the rest of the conferences were cool with legally paying the players with NIL then add portal, playoff, and tv realignment finished it.

Huh?

I think you meant SWC. Or you're just wrong. Like with JJ being the best QB. Either way, idk.

utee94 · « **Reply #143 on:** October 23, 2023, 09:27:30 AM »

SWC? Lulz, no. It's been dead and gone for almost 30 years. The SEC has maintained a very proud tradition of paying players with giant bags of cash during the interim. For example we know Cam Newton cost over $180,000 because that was MSU's losing bid.

Of course that would be a bargain now, the ags dumped well into the 7 figures to secure their "greatest class ever."

Mdot21 · « **Reply #144 on:** October 23, 2023, 09:36:41 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2023, 12:11:44 AM

Huh?

I think you meant SWC. Or you're just wrong. Like with JJ being the best QB. Either way, idk.

please don't act all stupid like the SEC hasn't been paying players bags of cash for-oh-fcking-ever.

Never said JJ was the best QB in CFB, so idk what you're going on about there. Might've said he's the best QB in the B1G- which he is. Definitely said he's the best QB that Jeem has had in his tenure at Michigan- which is obviously true bc Jeem hasn't had much to write home about at QB at Michigan til JJ. Probably said JJ is the most talented QB that Michigan has had since Drew Henson- which again- he obviously is.

847badgerfan · « **Reply #145 on:** October 23, 2023, 09:43:36 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2023, 12:11:44 AM

Like with JJ being the best QB.

That was me.

An argument can be made for Penix too.

And Graham Mertz.

Mdot21 · « **Reply #146 on:** October 23, 2023, 09:48:43 AM »

After watching a lot of games this past weekend, a probably stupid thought popped into my head....Michigan would probably be a 10 pt to 2 TD favorite vs the field if they had Marvin Harrison Jr on their roster. Marv is that special and Michigan is really experienced, good, and deep everywhere.

They are loaded basically everywhere on both sides of the ball except for having a dominant #1 WR outside the numbers. Roman Wilson has been terrific this year and they rotate him all-around and he's done some damage on the outside but he is definitely most effective in the slot with his quickness and top-line speed. Michigan's OL has started to gel and get better every week with Henderson at LT and Barnhart back at RT. Corum looks better and better and more like his pre-injury self every single week. JJ is playing really good football right now. They have a terrific 1-2 punch at TE and Colston Loveland is a budding star. Donovan Edwards has been a disappointment for sure- but not going to write him off- he's ultra-talented and could have a breakout game at any moment. You put Marv on that offense- I honestly don't know how you'd defend them. Lack of having a guy like that might prevent them from realizing their ultimate goal.

Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #147 on:** October 23, 2023, 09:58:02 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on October 23, 2023, 09:48:43 AM

After watching a lot of games this past weekend, a probably stupid thought popped into my head....Michigan would probably be a 10 pt to 2 TD favorite vs the field if they had Marvin Harrison Jr on their roster. Marv is that special and Michigan is really experienced, good, and deep everywhere.

They are loaded basically everywhere on both sides of the ball except for having a dominant #1 WR outside the numbers. Roman Wilson has been terrific this year and they rotate him all-around and he's done some damage on the outside but he is definitely most effective in the slot with his quickness and top-line speed. Michigan's OL has started to gel and get better every week with Henderson at LT and Barnhart back at RT. Corum looks better and better and more like his pre-injury self every single week. JJ is playing really good football right now. They have a terrific 1-2 punch at TE and Colston Loveland is a budding star. Donovan Edwards has been a disappointment for sure- but not going to write him off- he's ultra-talented and could have a breakout game at any moment. You put Marv on that offense- I honestly don't know how you'd defend them. Lack of having a guy like that might prevent them from realizing their ultimate goal.

What team have you seen that looks better? More complete? I haven’t seen that team yet.

as I said, in one of the ranking threads, the only team that could beat Michigan right now in my opinion is Michigan. In other words, if they show up and play hard and play well, I would take them against anyone.

I would get Washington an outside shot and maybe Georgia. But both would have to play super well.

GopherRock · « **Reply #148 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:07:44 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on October 23, 2023, 09:58:02 AM

What team have you seen that looks better? More complete? I haven’t seen that team yet.

as I said, in one of the ranking threads, the only team that could beat Michigan right now in my opinion is Michigan. In other words, if they show up and play hard and play well, I would take them against anyone.

I would get Washington an outside shot and maybe Georgia. But both would have to play super well.

As I noted earlier in this thread, Michigan is due for a WTF game. Every MNC contender in my lifetime has one. Who is it against, Purdue or Maryland?

Washington survived theirs in the wee hours of Sunday morning against Arizona State, needing a pick-six to win.

medinabuckeye1 · « **Reply #149 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:29:00 AM »

Quote from: GopherRock on October 23, 2023, 10:07:44 AM

As I noted earlier in this thread, Michigan is due for a WTF game. Every MNC contender in my lifetime has one. Who is it against, Purdue or Maryland?

Washington survived theirs in the wee hours of Sunday morning against Arizona State, needing a pick-six to win.

There is an awful lot of luck involved in winning an NC. What you bring up is one place where luck matters a lot.

Michigan has four scheduled games left:

Vs Purdue on November 4
At Penn State on Veteran's Day
At Maryland on November 18
Vs Ohio State on Saturday of Thanksgiving weekend, November 25.

If they have their WTF game against PU or UMD they'll probably win anyway. Even if the Wolverines do lose to the Spoilermakers or get caught in a trap by Maryland in between top-10 showdowns, it really doesn't matter. At 8-1/11-1 with a loss to either Purdue or Maryland they'd go the the B1GCG anyway and then on to the CFP.

If Michigan loses to either tOSU or Penn State, that is much different. With a loss to the Buckeyes the Wolverines couldn't get to Indy unless the Buckeyes lose twice.

With a loss to Penn State the Wolverines would miss Indy unless PSU blows a game or Nebraska goes on a tear and IA/IL/NU finish very weakly.

It doesn't look like there will be a CFP spot for an 11-1 non-Champion this year so a loss to either PSU or tOSU probably means a Rose Bowl appearance for the Wolverines.

OrangeAfroMan · « **Reply #150 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:34:03 AM »

There's realistically (understanding hiccups happen) a good 12-15 teams that would be 8-0 with UM's schedule up to this point.
Michigan is an unknown.
Their QB is an unknown.
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UM is probably a top 3 team.
McCarthy is probably a top QB.
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But when Halloween is around the corner and the stickiest situation your teams has experienced was a locker room chewing out at halftime vs a MAC team, we don't KNOW anything about you.
All these declarative statements are bizarre.

MikeDeTiger · « **Reply #151 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:42:45 AM »

Quote from: utee94 on October 23, 2023, 09:27:30 AM

SWC? Lulz, no. It's been dead and gone for almost 30 years. The SEC has maintained a very proud tradition of paying players with giant bags of cash during the interim. For example we know Cam Newton cost over $180,000 because that was MSU's losing bid.

Of course that would be a bargain now, the ags dumped well into the 7 figures to secure their "greatest class ever."

I wish our compliance dept. weren't such anal bloodhounds with hard-ons for NCAA rules. They've been great for sniffing out infractions, self-imposing penalties, and bowing with humble suppliance to the NCAA Overlords. They've been a total cock-block as far as getting some good players in on those good ol' slush funds through the years. I used to be proud of that. Now with NIL it all seems pointless and I wonder how many more SEC titles we might have had if not for their pure glee in self-hammering every sport on campus.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #152 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:51:14 AM »

Quote from: Mdot21 on October 23, 2023, 09:48:43 AM

After watching a lot of games this past weekend, a probably stupid thought popped into my head....Michigan would probably be a 10 pt to 2 TD favorite vs the field if they had Marvin Harrison Jr on their roster. Marv is that special and Michigan is really experienced, good, and deep everywhere.

Run two TE sets then,they have enough to spread the field and grind out yds on the ground also. According to sports -reference.com Donovon has only had 3.2 per carry and 8.8 per catch this season. But the potential is always there to bust out

MrNubbz · « **Reply #153 on:** October 23, 2023, 10:59:37 AM »

Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on October 23, 2023, 10:34:03 AM

There's realistically (understanding hiccups happen) a good 12-15 teams that would be 8-0 with UM's schedule up to this point.
Michigan is an unknown.
Their QB is an unknown.

Not really and i don't like defending them either. But most of last years team is back sans Uzi Smith and that beast at center what ever the hell his name was. But Hairball has portaled well and the lines are decent. They haven't beat themselves and won all their games handily their closest games were won by 24,25 pts. So IMO if they stay healthy they should end up back in the POs again. I'm more than willing to watch that chair kicked out from under them though

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