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Topic: Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) @ Purdue (0-1, 0-1) Post Game

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betarhoalphadelta

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Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) @ Purdue (0-1, 0-1) Post Game
« on: August 26, 2018, 01:21:51 PM »
So... Big game for both teams. Northwestern coming off a very successful season, and Purdue looking to build some momentum early before facing a very difficult back half of their schedule.

Is Thorson going to be ready?

In my mind, that's the question. If Thorson is healthy, this game is a legitimate shootout. If Thorson can't go, I think Purdue wins handily.
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2018, 07:37:35 PM »
Huge game. The winner will be a B1G West dark horse. The loser won't. 
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2018, 10:35:34 PM »
Missing NU Wildcat, tonight.
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2018, 07:26:56 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on August 26, 2018, 10:35:34 PM
Missing NU Wildcat, tonight.
hmm. That was a gut punch I wasn't expecting. Yah I miss that cat.
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: August 28, 2018, 08:46:56 AM »
Quote from: Hawkinole on August 26, 2018, 10:35:34 PM
Missing NU Wildcat, tonight.
Same, it was weird not seeing him as the OP
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2018, 02:53:39 PM »
According to ESPN, the line is between -1 and -2 for Purdue... 

So apparently Vegas thinks NU is the slightly better team, prior to HFA, which edges it back to Purdue. 
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2018, 02:57:20 PM »
I'm leaning towards Northwestern, taking the 1.5
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2018, 03:55:52 PM »
Quote from: bwarbiany on August 29, 2018, 02:53:39 PM
According to ESPN, the line is between -1 and -2 for Purdue...

So apparently Vegas thinks NU is the slightly better team, prior to HFA, which edges it back to Purdue.
That's where I'm at.
Where Thorson is concerns me, so mix that with HFA, and I'll go Purdue.
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2018, 03:56:18 PM »
Northwestern Wildcats (0-0) at Purdue Boilermakers (0-0)
8:00 (Thu) - West Lafayette, IN - ESPN
While I'm generally not a fan of opening with conference games, it's hard not to still get excited to see one.  Particularly when it's not your team.  Two teams that exceeded expectations in 2017, probably can't wait to kick things off and build on them in 2018.  Plenty is at stake too.  The winner keeps that momentum rolling, however the loser, already 0-1 in the division before most teams have kicked off, with Iowa and Wisconsin to come, may be out of the race for Indy before Labor Day.  It kind of felt weird to say, considering Justin Jackson graduated as the 10th leading rusher in NCAA history, and those players don't exactly grow on trees anywhere, let alone at Northwestern, but even with his graduation, this felt like it could be the most talented team ever at Northwestern.  They've had some great teams, some teams that maybe reached above what their ceiling should have been, but on paper this team is probably more talented than '95, '96 or '00.  Then the Clayton Thorson injury happened.  Fitzgerald rolled with Thorson as a freshman in 2015, when he really, really, really struggled at times, and was willing to grow with him, as his QBR went from 45.7 as a freshman, to 62.3 to 70 last year.  Now all of that investment was supposed to pay off, he was being mentioned as a top 10 pick in the 2019 NFL Draft, and he tears his ACL in the Music City Bowl.  Fitzgerald listed Thorson OR junior T.J. Green (Trent Green's son, if you want to feel old) as the starter.  It seems like he should be healthy, but HOW healthy, and how rusty will he be after getting essentially no offseason.  The defense could be really, really good, and Jeremy Larkin looks like a more than adequate replacement for Jackson, but the thing goes as Thorson goes.  Purdue's year one results shocked everyone, and may have set the clock ahead a little too far.  The rebuild in West Lafayette was major.  However, the defense that Brohm inherited was far better than people probably gave it credit for.  There was experience and NFL players everywhere, and it all came together last year.  For an offensive guru, with two good to great quarterbacks, the Purdue offense was actually pretty terrible, and the defense was vastly underrated.  In conference play the Boilermakers were 10th in scoring offense, but 4th in scoring defense.  In Year 2 it's time for Brohm's offense to get going, because the graduation of 8 starters on defense, with a lot of bad Hazell classes behind them, means finishing in the top half, let alone top 1/3 of the Big Ten in defense seems like a very tall task.  So the offense has to generate a lot more than 20.3 ppg.  The overall numbers don't look bad, they just left too many points on the table.  Dropped balls.  Bad third down conversion rates.  My thought is that they have to improve there from Year 1 to Year 2, and that Northwestern now is not the Northwestern we could have seen this year.  We may see that Northwestern team later, once Thoron (hopefully) looks more like the top 10 pick he was projected as.  But Week 1, on the road, in a conference game.  Nah.
PURDUE 24, NORTHWESTERN 23
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2018, 01:55:53 PM »
So who if you took the over in the first and the under in the second, you did well.  What a weird split.
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Re: Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) @ Purdue (0-1, 0-1) Post Game
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2018, 02:15:00 PM »
Yes, in places, Purdue looked very superior.

And then in others, ...
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Re: Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) @ Purdue (0-1, 0-1) Post Game
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2018, 03:24:54 PM »
What are the odds that Purdue puts it all together against somebody big and stuns a ranked team this year?

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Re: Northwestern (1-0, 1-0) @ Purdue (0-1, 0-1) Post Game
« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2018, 04:02:44 PM »
I think they will pull a big upset.  The OL is better than Purdue has had in years.  There are weapons at WR and RB.  The defense is much better than expected, just need to develop a better pass rush.

The 4 key plays to that game were Sindelar's 2 terrible interceptions, Neal's bone head personal foul, and an awful no call for offensive pass interference.  

3 of those are easily coachable.
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Re: Northwestern (0-0, 0-0) @ Purdue (0-0, 0-0) Game Week
« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2018, 04:29:16 PM »
Quote from: ELA on August 31, 2018, 01:55:53 PM
So who if you took the over in the first and the under in the second, you did well.  What a weird split.
What happened at halftime?  
I didn't watch (no BTN) but I was keeping tabs on the score.  When it was 31-17 at halftime I would NEVER have guessed that 31 points would be enough to win it.  
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