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Kris60

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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #756 on: January 23, 2022, 03:52:14 PM »
I respect him more really,so hurl away 🤮 he's a gamer,He does he takes the big bucks and and earns it.What did Rodgers do in the 2nd half? the great ones have what he lacks - moxie,the Packers caved into practically every demand he's made.ELA's right,million dollar talent and a 10 cent head.His ridiculous crap last off season - did you pay attention? Then earlier this seaon giving the team and reporters the impression he was immunized when he wasn't.Not dialed in and a Diva
You keep focusing on just the Niner game last night.  I’m talking about over the course of his career.  But yeah, Rodgers was 20-29 for 225 yards.  No TD’s. No picks.  Pretty meh game for the most part.  Not terrible, but not great.  I could probably find half a dozen playoff games Brady has played worse in and won.  Hell, both of the Super Bowl wins against the Rams come to mind right off the top of my head

And it wasn’t because he had “moxie” or “made his own breaks” or any other term that sounds good but means nothing.  It’s because his team played better and bailed him out of a so-so game.  Simple as that.

But we look at the winning QB and assign a clutch narrative and the losing one assign a choke narrative.  It’s lazy.  Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.

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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #757 on: January 23, 2022, 03:54:03 PM »
Pretty clear that COVID wasn't the only thing he failed to get immunized from.



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« Reply #758 on: January 23, 2022, 03:55:16 PM »
Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.
Has anyone praised him today?

It's not like this is the first time for him

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« Reply #759 on: January 23, 2022, 04:03:26 PM »
Brady making me look bad after calling Rodgers by far the biggest whiner

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« Reply #760 on: January 23, 2022, 04:07:36 PM »
You keep focusing on just the Niner game last night. 
No you piped up when it was pointed out he was 0-4 vs niners and 7-9 in the Play oFfs since he last won the hardware in 2010. How many guys have collected more money in the last 12 years?It's all about the benjamins - Just Win Baby


But we look at the winning QB and assign a clutch narrative and the losing one assign a choke narrative.  It’s lazy.  Garrapolo was 11-19 for 131 yards no TDS and a pick.  Did he make his own breaks and show moxie or did his defense and special teams play great?  Hint. It’s the latter.
His defense didn't give him the ball back enough times?



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« Reply #761 on: January 23, 2022, 04:24:35 PM »
What is Brady's worst playoff game ever?  Are we watching it?

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« Reply #762 on: January 23, 2022, 04:33:10 PM »
No you piped up when it was pointed out he was 0-4 vs niners and 7-9 in the Play oFfs since he last won the hardware in 2010. How many guys have collected more money in the last 12 years?It's all about the benjamins - Just Win Baby
His defense didn't give him the ball back enough times?




I wasn’t piping up about games against the Niners specifically.  I was piping up about the narrative that Rodgers has been a choke artist in the playoffs. He hasn’t.  He’s actually been pretty damn good.

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« Reply #763 on: January 23, 2022, 04:34:43 PM »
Has anyone praised him today?

It's not like this is the first time for him
It goes to support my earlier point about a team can win or lose outside of how the QB plays.

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« Reply #764 on: January 23, 2022, 04:47:07 PM »
Statistically, Rodgers has been a better postseason QB than Brady. 
Completion percentage
TD/INT ratio
TD pass %
INT %
YPA
QB rating

All Rodgers.


I'm finished with Rodgers stats apologetics. After Saturday's choke I'm convinced Rodgers plays to protect his Passer Ratings and TD/INT ratio before bothering with the bigger picture of actually winning the game. For long stretches against the Niners Rodgers would only throw to either Aaron Jones on screens or Davante Adams on sideline outs. This safely kept his completion percentage high while minimizing his INTs.

Notice the one pass for six yards to Allen Lazard. His only catch from the slot position came on a 3rd-n-short to set up a 1st-n-goal on a 14 play drive that finished with a FG to put Green Bay up 10-3 early in the 4th Q. Lazard was matched with a LB, as he had been for most of the game, because the Niners were instead assigning so much manpower to covering and Adams and guiding him toward the sideline with double coverage.

So why, if an LB was usually matched on Lazard at Slot WR, didn’t Rodgers exploit this match up more? It’s especially questionable given how banged up the Niners secondary was. If Rodgers wasn’t going use the rest of the field, as the Niners must’ve realized, they only needed to keep Rodgers shorter passes to Adam or Jones from resulting in YAC.

As the game moved along there was no sense of throwing downfield from Aaron. Instead it was Garoppolo thriving late with higher risk 3rd down passes to Samuel and Kittle.

Could it be Rodgers concerted fostering of these stats that might counterintuitively be holding Green Bay back?


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« Reply #765 on: January 23, 2022, 05:11:03 PM »


Notice the one pass for six yards to Allen Lazard. His only catch from the slot position came on a 3rd-n-short to set up a 1st-n-goal on a 14 play drive that finished with a FG to put Green Bay up 10-3 early in the 4th Q. Lazard was matched with a LB, as he had been for most of the game, because the Niners were instead assigning so much manpower to covering and Adams and guiding him toward the sideline with double coverage.

So why, if an LB was usually matched on Lazard at Slot WR, didn’t Rodgers exploit this match up more? It’s especially questionable given how banged up the Niners secondary was. If Rodgers wasn’t going use the rest of the field, as the Niners must’ve realized, they only needed to keep Rodgers shorter passes to Adam or Jones from resulting in YAC.
The bolded part is almost certianly incorrect, FYI

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Re: NFL Crap 2021
« Reply #766 on: January 23, 2022, 05:12:42 PM »
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.

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« Reply #767 on: January 23, 2022, 05:24:58 PM »
So he plays to protect his passer rating and not win?  Lol.  Some of the things people pull out of their ass amaze me.
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« Reply #768 on: January 23, 2022, 05:45:37 PM »
that might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. Mike Evans took a real dirty helmet to helmet shot there, should've been a personal foul and Tampa gets an automatic first down. Instead, because the ball hit the ground after he took the hit, Rams get the ball turnover on downs, get pushed 15 yards back and it's 1st and 10. 

NFL has really has some stupid ass rules. We see this every single year. Either give the ball to the Bucs and it's a new set of downs, or give the ball to the Rams and have them have to go 1st and 25. WTF is the god damn point of the penalty otherwise? 

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« Reply #769 on: January 23, 2022, 06:11:24 PM »
holy shit. Tampa right back in this in position to tie it up. I turned the game off at 27-3. 

 

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