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847badgerfan

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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #56 on: September 27, 2023, 07:48:21 AM »
If I told my wife he WAS the Iowa coach, she would 100% believe it
If I told my wife he was a US Senator, she'd 100% believe it.
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #57 on: September 27, 2023, 08:01:28 AM »
US Senator from Arkansas
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #58 on: September 28, 2023, 08:55:36 AM »
Speaking to the media Tuesday, McNamara was asked why Iowa's wide receivers have just 14 receptions through four games. Most of the targets have gone to tight ends Luke Lachey and Erick All.

Instead of steering around the question, McNamara decided to throw shade at Iowa offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz.

"I mean, I’m just a quarterback," McNamara said, via Eliot Clough of Rivals. "I’m not calling the plays or doing any of that. That’s not my decision. I’m just going to run the play, and I’m going to throw it to the open guy."
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #59 on: September 28, 2023, 09:05:11 AM »
Wowzers.

That's gonna leave a mark.

And that's a good thing.

I still can't believe he signed up for that position. Kid probably had 50+ choices and he chose Brian Ferentz. 
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #60 on: September 28, 2023, 09:23:49 AM »
Wowzers.

That's gonna leave a mark.

And that's a good thing.

I still can't believe he signed up for that position. Kid probably had 50+ choices and he chose Brian Ferentz.
High risk, high reward.

If Cade would have pulled it off, he would become a Big Ten legend,  leading 2 different teams to the Big Ten CCG.

And his ego was probably big enough to think he could actually make a difference. 
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #61 on: September 28, 2023, 09:26:56 AM »
That makes sense.
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2023, 09:30:34 AM »
Speaking to the media Tuesday, McNamara was asked why Iowa's wide receivers have just 14 receptions through four games. Most of the targets have gone to tight ends Luke Lachey and Erick All.

Instead of steering around the question, McNamara decided to throw shade at Iowa offensive coordinator Brian Ferentz.

"I mean, I’m just a quarterback," McNamara said, via Eliot Clough of Rivals. "I’m not calling the plays or doing any of that. That’s not my decision. I’m just going to run the play, and I’m going to throw it to the open guy."
As bad as that was,  it was better than flat out saying Brian does not know how to call plays or saying Iowa's WR's have no talent.

But yes, he should have fallen on the sword.  He should have said he does not know,  that they will need to work together as a team to find the answer, that he himself needs to getter better as a QB, blah, blah, blah

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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #63 on: September 28, 2023, 09:52:43 AM »
Blah blah blah is always the best response.

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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #64 on: September 28, 2023, 10:58:00 AM »
As bad as that was,  it was better than flat out saying Brian does not know how to call plays or saying Iowa's WR's have no talent.

But yes, he should have fallen on the sword.  He should have said he does not know,
that they will need to work together as a team to find the answer, that he himself needs to getter better as a QB, blah, blah, blah
WHY? Nice to see someone be upfront about the 800 lb Gorilla in the room or in this case the monkey in the mango tree that is the real debacle. Why make things easier for this blatant case of nepotism that is at the heart of the problem? The Ferentz's walk away obscenely rich at least shred every last bit of dignity KIRK once had - eff them
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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #65 on: September 28, 2023, 11:08:38 AM »
WHY? Nice to see someone be upfront about the 800 lb Gorilla in the room or in this case the monkey in the mango tree that is the real debacle. Why make things easier for this blatant case of nepotism that is at the heart of the problem? The Ferentz's walk away obscenely rich at least shred every last bit of dignity KIRK once had - eff them
This is pretty much where I am.

It would be different if this year was an outlier or if Brian's offenses were merely not good.

Neither of those are the case. Brian's offenses have been consistently awful with this year's and last year's being comically awful. It is hard not to laugh when watching a B1G school with B1G resources field an offense that wouldn't cut it in the MAC.

The work-around that Iowa/Barta contrived to evade Iowa's nepotism law is transparent and at this point Brian Ferentz is a walking personification of the need for such laws.

A lot of this, IMHO, is on the Trustees or Regents or whoever holds power over the University. When they authorized the ridiculous work-around they should have demanded that THEY conduct annual performance reviews and made it crystal clear that underperformance would NOT be accepted.

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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2023, 11:57:27 AM »
I would guess this might be Kirk Ferentz's last season. I have to wonder how the conversation between Barta, Kirk and Brian went at their annual review after last season. Don't you think there had to be a discussion concerning how many more seasons Kirk planned on coaching, while Barta is considering whether Brian will continue as o-coordinator? 
The Ferentzes must have thought that when they got the transfer portal players on the offense like Kaleb Brown (a 4* recruit from tOSU who is an Iowa second team WR), Erick All, Cade McNamara, and the two offensive linemen (who are not starting because apparently the existing o-linemen are better than the transfer portal o-linemen) that Brian's reputation as a coach would be redeemed. They thought they were going to show that the offensive performance the past two seasons was a player talent problem, not a coaching problem. Brian could  then find another job in football at a high level after this season's redemption.
Brian's coaching acumen is what it has been demonstrated to be throughout his tenure. Brian's offenses have underperformed his predecessor Greg Davis's offenses,  and Greg Davis's 5 offenses were well below average.

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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #67 on: September 28, 2023, 12:00:31 PM »
I am not the one calling the plays:


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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #68 on: September 28, 2023, 01:08:17 PM »
I would guess this might be Kirk Ferentz's last season. I have to wonder how the conversation between Barta, Kirk and Brian went at their annual review after last season. Don't you think there had to be a discussion concerning how many more seasons Kirk planned on coaching, while Barta is considering whether Brian will continue as o-coordinator?
The Ferentzes must have thought that when they got the transfer portal players on the offense like Kaleb Brown (a 4* recruit from tOSU who is an Iowa second team WR), Erick All, Cade McNamara, and the two offensive linemen (who are not starting because apparently the existing o-linemen are better than the transfer portal o-linemen) that Brian's reputation as a coach would be redeemed. They thought they were going to show that the offensive performance the past two seasons was a player talent problem, not a coaching problem. Brian could  then find another job in football at a high level after this season's redemption.
Brian's coaching acumen is what it has been demonstrated to be throughout his tenure. Brian's offenses have underperformed his predecessor Greg Davis's offenses,  and Greg Davis's 5 offenses were well below average.
Is it possible that either:
  • Barta knew he was going to retire anyway so he just decided to kick the can down the road (and thus to his successor), or
  • That this catastrophe was a major reason for Barta's decision to retire?


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Re: Next Iowa Football Coach
« Reply #69 on: September 28, 2023, 01:44:36 PM »
Is it possible that either:
  • Barta knew he was going to retire anyway so he just decided to kick the can down the road (and thus to his successor), or
  • That this catastrophe was a major reason for Barta's decision to retire?
If the "he" referred to in #1 is Kirk Ferentz, then I suspect this is a possibility that he knew Kirk was only going to work one more season. I am entirely speculating, but it would seem that would be a logical explanation why you allow Kirk to keep his son on staff after the disastrous offense Brian has led.
I have never seen an official explanation why Barta decided to retire, other than what he said, “This decision didn’t come suddenly, nor did it come without significant thought, discussion, and prayer. As I’ve reflected, I came to the conclusion there’s never a good time to step away…because there’s always more to be done. That said, I’m confident this is the right time for me and for my family."
I suspected that the timing of Barta's retirement relates to the racial bias lawsuit brought by former Iowa football players that the State of Iowa settled in March for $4 million. Rob Sand, the State Auditor, voted against approving the settlement unless Barta would be terminated, contending it is one a number of lawsuits filed against persons in the Athletic Department while Barta was A.D. Other members of the state tort claims committee voted to approve the settlement without terminating Barta. I have wondered whether pressure was placed on Barta by the university president to step down. He was only 59-years old when he retired.

 

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