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Topic: New Real? Realignment News

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utee94

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #42 on: October 11, 2024, 12:25:19 PM »
Yeah, so be happy with your second-tier status, because the alternative is we just kick you out entirely.

Which is the same BS that the G5 has been dealing with for decades.

I say, why keep the lie going? Why make this a 70-team league. We know that's not what the helmets and helmet-adjacent teams actually want.

If you're not going to do SOMETHING to try to actually have parity, take your 32 top teams and stop lying to us that we're equal when you're deliberately setting up a tiered system where we can't be equal.
Because you have to keep the boot on their neck, so that they know no matter how hard they fight, they'll NEVER, EVER get steak.
Vandy just stole Bama's steak right off their plate.  Swiped their bottle of Chateau Lafite Rothschild, too.  Twas glorious.

(until they do the same thing to Texas in a couple of weeks)

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #43 on: October 11, 2024, 12:31:45 PM »
A less talented team with a good mobile QB can cause better teams "issues".

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #44 on: October 11, 2024, 12:38:11 PM »
Would this league be as appealing if the W/L records varied between 9-3 and 3-9?  And the teams bounced around between those marks every few years?  Parity?


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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #45 on: October 11, 2024, 12:40:41 PM »
Would this league be as appealing if the W/L records varied between 9-3 and 3-9?  And the teams bounced around between those marks every few years?  Parity?


Helmet fans would probably not really like being "good" and still only making 5-7.  

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #46 on: October 11, 2024, 01:18:38 PM »
Vandy just stole Bama's steak right off their plate.  Swiped their bottle of Chateau Lafite Rothschild, too.  Twas glorious.

(until they do the same thing to Texas in a couple of weeks)
Yeah so occasionally a team can be the Spoilermakers or the... uhhh... Spoilerdores?

Only in the new system losing to Vandy doesn't knock Bama out of the playoff, and beating Bama doesn't get Vandy any closer to the playoff. 

David beat Goliath. But it was only important because it wasn't a 12-game season where David had to face 12 Goliaths in successive weeks.

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #47 on: October 11, 2024, 01:21:53 PM »
One reason I don't like the NFL is seeing 10-6 teams (and worse) make the playoffs.

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #48 on: October 11, 2024, 01:59:08 PM »
One reason I don't like the NFL is seeing 10-6 teams (and worse) make the playoffs.
In 2011, the "World Champions" of the NFL went 9-7 (the Giants vs non-16-0 Pats).  Had a 4-game losing streak in November.  Lost both its games to 5-11 Washington.  

Champs.
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #49 on: October 11, 2024, 02:05:01 PM »
Because one point lost in all of this realignment discussion is that in these super-conferences, someone's gotta eat the losses. And the helmets don't want to dine at that table.
Yes, that's what I'm saying.  But that would happen without tiers.  The helmets simply don't buy into their own advantages.  They lack confidence?
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2024, 02:06:09 PM »
Which is the same BS that the G5 has been dealing with for decades.

I say, why keep the lie going? Why make this a 70-team league. We know that's not what the helmets and helmet-adjacent teams actually want.

This is what I find odd.  Why radically change everything if you're just keeping the big, fat lie going?  It doesn't make sense.
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I mean, the skeptic pessimist in me would say these decision-makers (ie money-makers) know a tiered system will create a further gap, so that sometime in the future, the top-tier can break away.  But why spend the time to do that?  Just propose it now.  Stop the foreplay.
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Also, mimicking the NFL with a lesser on-field product is the WORST idea possible.  I can't emphasize that enough.  They HAVE to see that, right?!?!?!?
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2024, 02:47:31 PM »
[img width=500 height=310.996]https://i.imgur.com/ichjglT.png[/img]
70 teams in 7 groups of 10 would also make a pretty easy 8 team playoff.  7 champs, and the best non champ.

I would make the 3 "non conference" games based on pairing teams who finished in the same position the prior year, like the NFL does.

How do you make anyone care about those non-conference games?  I think that best non-champ is determined by overall record, and then "bowl" selections are also determined by overall record.  Those bowl payments go directly into the NIL payments to the schools, but only to participating players.

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2024, 02:50:08 PM »
Wake me when it happens.  It seems to be an unending "discussion", most of which ends up in the weeds.

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« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2024, 02:59:17 PM »
Wake me when it happens.  It seems to be an unending "discussion", most of which ends up in the weeds.
In the weeds, between the hedges, what's the difference?

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2024, 03:05:29 PM »
I simulated out a season a couple years ago with 8 team conferences, that left nobody out.

After 7 games it went to a 128 team double elimination tournament, that again included everyone, and teams were slotted like FIFA tournaments, where teams were pre-slotted based on their finish within their conference, based on the difficulty of their conference.

It would never happen, but that's a great way to make every game "matter".  Even if it's a Game 6 matchup with 5th place on the line, that might mean a home game.  And the playoffs would be home games at least down to 16

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« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2024, 03:06:35 PM »
This one has an outside group with direct connections to the SEC/B1G commishes and all the ADs.  And a $9 billion kicker.

ELA, an expanded playoff is part of the plan, so I'm thinking 16 teams.  
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

 

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