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Topic: New Real? Realignment News

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #154 on: October 16, 2024, 06:19:50 PM »
water in plastic bottles sucks
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #155 on: October 16, 2024, 06:21:06 PM »
In Europe they don't have Diet Coke, they have Coca Cola Light.  And it's not the same thing, it actually has some sugar in it, just not as much.  It tastes better than the artificially sweetened diet drinks here in the USA.

Coke Zero?
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #156 on: October 16, 2024, 09:33:29 PM »
Hey now, full-sugar Royal Crown Cola is delicious.  You're from the South, sort of.  Haven't you ever heard of RC Cola and moonpies?
Not together, no.  I used to eat a moonpie at my Granny's house.  We never had them at home.  They're a bit much.

RC Cola has a horrific aftertaste.  
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #157 on: October 16, 2024, 09:39:04 PM »
Instead of saying "no one buys Pepsi", which is an absolute, one could accurately just say "More folks buy Coke than Pepsi, given the option."

It's a matter of plain English and being accurate, if one is interested in validity.

In communication, precision is often useful over hyperbole and overgeneralizations.
What I said was statistically accurate.
No, 100% of all humans don't prefer Coke.  But you're being absurd to take that as my meaning.  As you often do.

A 12-inch pizza is only 2 inches 'smaller' than a 14-inch pizza, but it's far, far smaller area-wise. That's like the difference between Pepsi and Coke.  Pepsi makes x-millions of dollars.  Great.  It lags far behind Coke, for a reason.

Pepsi is a 2nd-rate plain soda.  Arguing against it is bizarre.  99% of the country prefers Coke.  I'll drink both.  Both are drinkable, but one is appreciably better, as per the evidence.
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #158 on: October 16, 2024, 09:50:16 PM »
Pepsi isn't allowed to manufacture cocaine. 

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #159 on: October 16, 2024, 09:55:06 PM »
What I said was statistically accurate.
No, 100% of all humans don't prefer Coke.  But you're being absurd to take that as my meaning.  As you often do.

A 12-inch pizza is only 2 inches 'smaller' than a 14-inch pizza, but it's far, far smaller area-wise. That's like the difference between Pepsi and Coke.  Pepsi makes x-millions of dollars.  Great.  It lags far behind Coke, for a reason.

Pepsi is a 2nd-rate plain soda.  Arguing against it is bizarre.  99% of the country prefers Coke.  I'll drink both.  Both are drinkable, but one is appreciably better, as per the evidence.
You make almost zero sense. First you argue that 100% of people don’t prefer coke, but then later on you state that 99% do. You’re basically almost contradicting yourself in the same sentence, because it’s not anywhere near 99%, and if were then Pepsi literally would not exist. 

FWIW “ coke” has about a 20% market share, Pepsi sits at about 9%. 

PS I really enjoy it when these little discussions start and everyone gives their little take about it and then we argue about mostly meaningless points and counterpoints.  

I’m just so happy we’re not discussing the many varieties of chili again. 

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #160 on: October 16, 2024, 09:59:03 PM »
Pepsi isn't allowed to manufacture cocaine.
whale shit
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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #161 on: October 16, 2024, 10:46:30 PM »
Anytime you see someone drinking a diet Coke, offer them a Mentos. 


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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #162 on: October 16, 2024, 11:51:21 PM »
You make almost zero sense. First you argue that 100% of people don’t prefer coke, but then later on you state that 99% do. You’re basically almost contradicting yourself in the same sentence, because it’s not anywhere near 99%, and if were then Pepsi literally would not exist.

FWIW “ coke” has about a 20% market share, Pepsi sits at about 9%.

PS I really enjoy it when these little discussions start and everyone gives their little take about it and then we argue about mostly meaningless points and counterpoints. 

I’m just so happy we’re not discussing the many varieties of chili again.
You're having trouble understanding that not literally 100% of all people prefer Coke, but that 99% of areas do? 
That's on you, friend. 

The population of the areas that prefer Pepsi make up under 1% of the population.  I can't believe I'm taking the time to type this out, but okay.  You and cincy require it.  Sure, people within the areas most people prefer Pepsi have people that prefer Coke, and yes, there are people in the entire rest of the country (99%+ of the overall population) that prefer Coke have some that prefer Pepsi.  But Coke is the preferred soda in areas that contain 99% of the population. 

Pepsi still exists because sometimes people buy it when it's the only option available.  Or if it's on sale.  Or if their taste buds are as wrecked as Badge's.  Your market share numbers include diet drinks and other flavored-sodas, which skew the data.  Pepsi's market share was 15% in 1985 and has halved since then.  It's virtually equal with Dr Pepper, Diet Coke, and Sprite. 
I can't find just Coke vs just Pepsi sales, but it's dramatically more radical than 20% vs 8%. 

Pepsi exists just for the sake of variety.  For the <1% who prefer it.  But the industry is so big, it makes tons of money.  Good on them. 
But swinging this absurd tangent all the way back around to the original point, college football should not aim to be Pepsi.  It should, to keep the drink thing going, aspire to stay different, a la a Sprite or Gatorade or whatever the fuck. 

Being the same product as the NFL, but a worse one, may make plenty of money.  But it sucks.  You can make as much money being related, but different, as college football has been leading up to today.



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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #163 on: October 17, 2024, 08:47:44 AM »
cfb is still football. Sprite and Gatorade would be baseball and basketball. 

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #164 on: October 17, 2024, 08:58:06 AM »
In 2023, volume of Pepsi flagship fell by 4.7%, allowing Dr Pepper, which saw a 0.2% decline in volume, to finish the year with a slight market share advantage over Pepsi (8.34% to Pepsi's 8.31%; Coca-Cola was first by far with 19.2% share).

Apparently, a lot of folks do buy Pepsi even if Coke is right there at Kroger.  And yes, Coke has been in first place for a long time.  One can actually use posted figures to support one's position, they are readily available with this search function.  One also can be somewhat nuanced and less absolutist when the data are in fact not 100% either way.

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #165 on: October 17, 2024, 08:58:23 AM »
You're having trouble understanding that not literally 100% of all people prefer Coke, but that 99% of areas do? 
That's on you, friend. 

The population of the areas that prefer Pepsi make up under 1% of the population.  I can't believe I'm taking the time to type this out, but okay.  You and cincy require it.  Sure, people within the areas most people prefer Pepsi have people that prefer Coke, and yes, there are people in the entire rest of the country (99%+ of the overall population) that prefer Coke have some that prefer Pepsi.  But Coke is the preferred soda in areas that contain 99% of the population. 

Pepsi still exists because sometimes people buy it when it's the only option available.  Or if it's on sale.  Or if their taste buds are as wrecked as Badge's.  Your market share numbers include diet drinks and other flavored-sodas, which skew the data.  Pepsi's market share was 15% in 1985 and has halved since then.  It's virtually equal with Dr Pepper, Diet Coke, and Sprite. 
I can't find just Coke vs just Pepsi sales, but it's dramatically more radical than 20% vs 8%. 

Pepsi exists just for the sake of variety.  For the <1% who prefer it.  But the industry is so big, it makes tons of money.  Good on them. 
But swinging this absurd tangent all the way back around to the original point, college football should not aim to be Pepsi.  It should, to keep the drink thing going, aspire to stay different, a la a Sprite or Gatorade or whatever the fuck. 

Being the same product as the NFL, but a worse one, may make plenty of money.  But it sucks.  You can make as much money being related, but different, as college football has been leading up to today.
Well, from your original argument  it wasn't clear you were speaking about "99%" of the areas prefer coke, so that is a little more plausible.  

Here is the info I found:
"In 2023, volume of Pepsi flagship fell by 4.7%, allowing Dr Pepper, which saw a 0.2% decline in volume, to finish the year with a slight market share advantage over Pepsi (8.34% to Pepsi's 8.31%; Coca-Cola was first by far with 19.2% share).[color=var(--IXoxUe)]Sep 30, 2024"[/color]

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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #166 on: October 17, 2024, 09:00:26 AM »
The reality of it is that there is no such thing as "Pepsi vs Coke" anymore because not even 99%, or 75%, or 50%, or even 25% of the country prefers coke. What they prefer is variety, energy drinks, some like Dr. Pepper like myself, some like Gatorade (a pepsi product), some like tea, some like Sprite or 7-Up.  


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Re: New Real? Realignment News
« Reply #167 on: October 17, 2024, 09:09:32 AM »
There is a plethora of drink options, sure, but there still are data on Pepsi vs Coke.  

The story of Coke is pretty interesting, it's a pretty basic product.  I wouldn't have thought it could dominate the market decade after decade.  And of course it's not good for us healthwise.  Marketing.

 

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