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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2022, 06:43:28 PM »
Ah so we've now reached the point in the season where MDot flips the lightswitch from being overly damning of Harbaugh and the UM quarterback, to  being frenetically optimistic.

Got it.


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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2022, 06:46:51 PM »
Ah so we've now reached the point in the season where MDot flips the lightswitch from being overly damning of Harbaugh and the UM quarterback, to  being frenetically optimistic.

Got it.
Nah. Harbaugh still sucks when it comes to the passing game. He probably always will. Just is what it is.

JJ is just objectively A LOT better than Cade McNamara. Cade McNamara kinda sucks. Very limited arm talent, is a statue and completely unathletic. Cade got WAY too much credit for last year. His ass was never anything but along for the ride.

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2022, 06:50:04 PM »
Nah. Harbaugh still sucks when it comes to the passing game. He probably always will. Just is what it is.

JJ is just objectively A LOT better than Cade McNamara. Cade McNamara kinda sucks. Very limited arm talent, is a statue and completely unathletic. Cade got WAY too much credit for last year. His ass was never anything but along for the ride.
Just giving you a hard time.  You know I pull for the Wolverines.  Although that is partly just to annoy Mr. N, I'll admit.:)

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2022, 07:38:57 PM »
Be careful we may send another of our offensive coordinators Ryan Day your way.Just like we did Herman - thank me later
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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2022, 08:51:18 PM »
Be careful we may send another of our offensive coordinators Ryan Day your way.Just like we did Herman - thank me later

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2022, 09:22:43 PM »
Nah. Harbaugh still sucks when it comes to the passing game. He probably always will. Just is what it is.

JJ is just objectively A LOT better than Cade McNamara. Cade McNamara kinda sucks. Very limited arm talent, is a statue and completely unathletic. Cade got WAY too much credit for last year. His ass was never anything but along for the ride.
He is better, but when your top 2 RBs average 6.3 ypc, as a QB, you're kind of along for the ride (in a good way).  UM passes about 38% of the time, which is on the edge between run-heavy and balanced.  JJ has been very efficient.  
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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2022, 09:33:42 PM »
so, yer sayin JJ has a chance against Georgia?
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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2022, 09:43:18 PM »
so, yer sayin JJ has a chance against Georgia?
not sure. I will say M will have a better shot with JJ than they could have had with Cade as he'll be able to make throws and plays with his feet that Cade just simply could not and cannot ever make due to: physical/talent limitations. 

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2022, 09:44:10 PM »
He is better, but when your top 2 RBs average 6.3 ypc, as a QB, you're kind of along for the ride (in a good way).  UM passes about 38% of the time, which is on the edge between run-heavy and balanced.  JJ has been very efficient. 
fair enough. JJ can just do a lot more with his arm and feet than Cade. he's just a more talented, better player. 

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2022, 11:52:40 PM »
so, yer sayin JJ has a chance against Georgia?
They have a chance, but a repeat of last year is possible, too.
UGA's defense is basically as good as it was last year, based on the numbers.

The Dawgs' offense isn't, however.  The numbers are similar to last year, but they've passed more this year, but less efficiently.  And they don't have a James Cook at RB this year, either.  

The problem with UM vs UGA last year was that they were similar teams and one was easily more talented.  
They're less similar this year.  That could favor UM, but we wouldn't really know until they play.
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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #52 on: December 01, 2022, 12:34:04 AM »
The Dawgs' offense isn't, however.  The numbers are similar to last year, but they've passed more this year, but less efficiently.  And they don't have a James Cook at RB this year, either. 
It's interesting. They've turned up the pace and feel like a less run-centric offense. Those top three pass catchers are studs, but they're also using the screen game as an extended run game. 

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #53 on: December 01, 2022, 01:00:03 AM »
They have a chance, but a repeat of last year is possible, too.
UGA's defense is basically as good as it was last year, based on the numbers.

The Dawgs' offense isn't, however.  The numbers are similar to last year, but they've passed more this year, but less efficiently.  And they don't have a James Cook at RB this year, either. 

The problem with UM vs UGA last year was that they were similar teams and one was easily more talented. 
They're less similar this year.  That could favor UM, but we wouldn't really know until they play.
Not sure the Georgia defense is basically as good as it was last year - considering it lost 5 guys to the 1st round plus Nakobe Dean and Channing Tindall and then has lost Nolan Smith for the year this year. That's 8 key players on that 2021 defense gone from their defense in 2022. Like, it's still obviously very good, maybe even still the best in America, but at the same time it's just not quite the same.

I want to say Georgia through the regular season (12 games) last year was giving up like 6.8 PPG- which is literally insane and was light years ahead of every defense in the nation last year. I think in 2022 they're around 11-12 PPG, which is in the same ballpark as Michigan and Illinois defenses this year. Like, it's still a really good defense, but it's not quite that 2021 defense.

Michigan imo got upgraded at QB- JJ is just much better talent/player than Cade, upgraded at RB- Corum and Edwards are a better more talented duo than Haskins and Corum, upgraded at WR- they got Ronnie Bell who is the best of a bunch of mediocre WRs back who missed all of 2021, and they upgraded at OL- their two guards were first year starters in 2021 and are better players in 2022 plus they got maybe the best center in the country to transfer in Olu Oluwatimi- and he's just a much better player than their walk-on 5th year center Andrew Vastardis.

On defense they got better in the secondary with frosh CB Will Johnson and Mike Sainistril switching to nickel, they're roughly same at linebacker, they definitely got better and deeper at defensive tackle, and while they lost two elite EDGE players in Hutchinson & Ojabo they have more depth there in the rotation and Mike Morris is a pretty damn good player.

I'd still pick Georgia, but it'd probably be a much better and closer game this time around. Georgia probably took a little step back from where they were last year and Michigan took a little step forward- which you'd think would make it a more even game and not such a blowout. 

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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #54 on: December 01, 2022, 08:19:56 AM »
Michigan lost a few studs on defense from last year and hasn't missed a beat

I'd guess nearly the same for Georgia

Georgia had a great game passing the ball last year

and JJ had only 2 fewer attempts than Cade last year - 17-19

of course JJ has a ton more experience under his belt now
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Re: New Playoff Rankings
« Reply #55 on: December 01, 2022, 09:50:13 AM »
Georgia is winning big again but with different traits (on3.com)

The team was never behind last year in the regular, this one was behind at Mizzou and in trouble in the fourth.  The OOC slate last year was not as impressive, they beat Clemson close in Charlotte vs blowing out Oregon in Atlanta.

The SEC East was not as strong last season.  They had Arky at home last year vs Miss State on the road.

The defense isn't as strong and lost one of their best players to injury but the secondary is probably better.  The offense has not been as consistent, but there is no QB controversy as was the case last year.

 

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