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Topic: Nebraska 2018 Season Thread

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #588 on: August 26, 2018, 08:57:45 PM »
hush money?

I doubt it
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #589 on: August 26, 2018, 09:13:31 PM »
No. Maybe I wrote it weirdly. I'm just saying that now that we've added more regulations to prevent against oversigning, I don't think "Coaches running players off the roster" is still any kind of epidemic. If I'm not mistaken, Badge was brushing up against that a few posts ago because Frost is new and some kids have left. 
My response is "meh": (1) The cases we can prove are super rare (maybe 1-4 per season nationwide) and (2) the cases we don't know about are foolish to guess about.
That's only further emphasized by the coincidence that the population that coaches would "run off the team" is the same group of players that we'd expect to, of their own volition, remove themselves to get playing time elsewhere. The odds I'd set is that the former UNL players who didn't survive Frost's first offseason removed themselves, not the other way around.
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #590 on: August 26, 2018, 09:19:30 PM »
I agree

wasn't suggesting you thought otherwise

was just a comment regarding your "when it happens silently"
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #591 on: August 26, 2018, 09:20:08 PM »
I will say that I think this is entiiiirely different in CBB versus CFB. On this one topic, CFB has cleaned up its act almost all the way in my opinion. The peak ignominy came in those first few Sabah/Alabama years. And then came the greater restrictions on class size and so went the epidemic.
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #592 on: August 26, 2018, 09:26:05 PM »
I agree

wasn't suggesting you thought otherwise

was just a comment regarding your "when it happens silently"
By "silent" I just meant the theoretical times when a coach runs a player off but rather than complain to the media, the kid keeps it to himself and moves on. It's *possible* that this happens, never/seldom/maybe even a lot, but I don't think that's a conversation worth happening. I could say it is stupid to think we have an epidemic of those "silent" cases and someone else could say it's stupid to think we don't and the conversation cant go anywhere because neither side has info to back itself up. Because only the transfers who aren't speaking know for sure.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #593 on: August 26, 2018, 10:22:15 PM »
There is some bad mouthing or negative comments from ex-players regarding situations at previous programs

probably less than I would expect

I think many ex-players feel that there's not much good to come from it.  Even if true....
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #594 on: August 27, 2018, 06:06:11 PM »
Gebbia was not at practice today and UNL validate he was no longer enrolled at school.  

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #595 on: August 27, 2018, 06:46:51 PM »
so, Coach picks the QB that can run.  Runner up in the QB battle leaves the program

now, can't allow the starter to run for fear of injury with no backup

perfect!
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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #596 on: August 28, 2018, 08:52:28 AM »
so, Coach picks the QB that can run.  Runner up in the QB battle leaves the program

now, can't allow the starter to run for fear of injury with no backup

perfect!
The Indiana grad transfer from Arizona quit too.
I mean I get that the kids want to play, but adding a kid who is simply seeking out the path of least resistance to a starting job seems like it might backfire, absent being in a desperate situation.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #597 on: August 28, 2018, 10:10:40 AM »
This was a freshman vs redshirt freshman battle...   I get it.  I don't like it, but this is the new norm

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #598 on: August 28, 2018, 01:39:07 PM »
Imagine how the 1992 Nebraska QB situation would've played out in today's enviro.  Tony Veland found himself a home in the secondary, though IIRC his move to Safety was following an injury. ,  Grant gets nod over Frazier, (I'm sure that had to do with experience and T.O. probably not wanting to go with a Freshman at QB), does Frazier get impatient if he doesn't get to start midway that season?

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #599 on: August 28, 2018, 01:45:06 PM »
marq... but Tony, Mike and Tommie were all recruited for TO's system.    A pocket QB in a spread system is a tough match.  

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #600 on: August 28, 2018, 04:43:09 PM »
Gebbia was never going to play much IMO...he's a twig, and has mediocre mobility at best. That said, Frost thought he was better than our No. 3 option, so bailing on five days before kickoff is shitty IMO. Doubly so if that plan was prepared some time go, as some are suggesting. 

But that ship has sailed, and hopefully the staff can get the sturdier and more-mobile Andrew Bunch up to speed fairly soon. 

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Re: Nebraska 2017 Offseason Thread
« Reply #601 on: August 28, 2018, 04:52:03 PM »
marq... but Tony, Mike and Tommie were all recruited for TO's system.    A pocket QB in a spread system is a tough match.  
exactly,
besides, Tommie may have been one of the top 10 QBs in his recruiting class, but the others may not have had other great choices lined up.
Gebbia and Patrick O’Brien are wanted by many.
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