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Topic: Nebraska 2018 Season Thread

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #238 on: November 09, 2017, 02:21:12 PM »
did ya see Frankie's Bobcats last night?

Solich would still be running the ball in the West and trying to beat the Badgers and Hawks at their own game

don't know how successful he would have been the past 4 or 5 seasons in the B1G, but he's competitive in the conference that he plays in today
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #239 on: November 09, 2017, 02:25:08 PM »
In Hindsight, SP should have told Solich a team of all white guys won't cut it.... so you need to fix recruiting.   Therefore, I'm going to help you replace staff with some people who will/want to recruit (and SP had staff that would not... some hold-overs) and your bonus plan will be restructured to emphasize recruiting as well. 

but at the time, MOST fans were not happy with being routed by KSU... and MOST fans felt Nebraska was no longer replacing upper classman with quality athletes.   At the time, it wasn't as unpopular as many suggest today.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #240 on: November 09, 2017, 03:01:02 PM »
yup, I think the Solich offense with the Pelini defense would have worked, BIG IF the two of them would have upgraded recruiting 

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #241 on: November 09, 2017, 03:12:25 PM »
I'm not sure what made Pelini so "proven" when he was hired. He had some good defenses for OU, UNL and LSU, but his defenses also gave up a lot of points to the better teams they played.

At the same time, Patterson's TCU squad had finished in the top-25 five times in his first 8 seasons. To me, that's proven.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #242 on: November 09, 2017, 03:22:50 PM »
my feeling is that Osborne understood that they needed to win at least 9 games NEXT season.  Pelini was brought in to fix the defense, Watson's offense was good enough.

Patterson probably wasn't willing to accept adopting Watson and his offense.  Since Pelini had not been a head coach and did not have a strong bond with an offensive guy or system, Bo was willing to accept Watson, at least for a few years, until he could get the defense rolling and get the 9 wins going again.

tough to win 9 games the first season of change on both sides of the ball with new systems.  Just ask Riley
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #243 on: November 09, 2017, 03:29:44 PM »
I've always been of the opinion that any new coach should be allowed to choose his own assistants. If Patterson interviewed and liked Watson, then great. If not, then so be it. Watson's offenses scored a lot of points against bad teams. Against the better ones, not so much.
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #244 on: November 09, 2017, 03:53:04 PM »
I'd guess the feeling was that Bo could hire his own coordinator in a couple years as he did.  Just doing whatever was possible to salvage the next season.

It almost worked for 3 seasons, Watson's offense with Pelini's defense in 08 won 9 games.  In 2009 and 2010 they won 10 and played in the Big 12 champ game each season.

Now, I will admit, if they could have scored a few more points in the games they lost those seasons they would have won conference championships and Pelini would probably still be in Lincoln
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #245 on: November 09, 2017, 04:04:11 PM »
Pelini (the year he had the nation's #1 D.)  They lose at Va Tech by one in absurd fashion, scoring all 15 points on FGs, they lost a 9-7 game to Iowa State in a game in which they were -8 in turnover margin, and nearly won the XII CCG over undefeated Texas with 98 yards of offense.   The only game they got 'torched' in was by Texas Tech and their 259 yards of offense.  The O did bail them out vs CU in a 28-20 game.  

That would've been the worst P5 conference championship offense in the history of college football.

I can't think of one playmaker on offense that season. Helu and Burkhead were babies.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #246 on: November 09, 2017, 04:07:02 PM »
UNL should have won that Dr. Pepper game. It gets an * in my book.
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #247 on: November 09, 2017, 05:17:10 PM »
University of Nebraska student-athletes continue to be among the nation’s best in the classroom. The NCAA has released its Graduation Success Rate (GSR), with Nebraska posting its highest overall GSR in the 13-year history of the rate.

Nebraska posted an all student-athlete GSR of 89 percent, an improvement of 1 percent from a year ago. In the past four years alone, Nebraska has improved its all student-athlete GSR by 9 percent.

In addition to the highest all student-athlete GSR in Nebraska history, six Husker teams achieved a perfect 100 percent GSR. Those teams included women’s basketball, women’s gymnastics, softball, women’s tennis, volleyball and men’s tennis. The women’s basketball, women’s tennis and volleyball programs have achieved a perfect GSR each of the 13 years the rate has been computed by the NCAA.

Ten other Husker programs achieved a GSR of 85 percent or higher, including baseball, men’s cross country/track, football, men’s golf, men’s gymnastics, rifle, women’s cross country/track, women’s golf, soccer and women’s swimming and diving. 

The football program’s GSR of 85 percent ranked second in the Big Ten, trailing only Northwestern.  Football’s GSR is 9 percentage points above the national average for Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) programs.

Also in the football GSR, Nebraska ranked in a tie for 11th among the 65 Power Five schools in the FBS ranks. Nebraska joined Northwestern, South Carolina, Duke, Notre Dame, Stanford, Wake Forest, Boston College, Vanderbilt, Miami, Virginia Tech, Clemson and Missouri among the top 11 in football GSR.  Among public schools, Nebraska’s football program had the third-best GSR among Power Five Schools.

The 2017 football team has three players competing as graduates this season. Another 13 members of the senior class are on track to earn their degrees at the completion of UNL’s fall semester.

The GSR is an NCAA measurement that, unlike the federally mandated graduation rates, includes transfer data in the calculation. The GSR data released this week is based on four classes of scholarship student-athletes who entered college in the fall of 2007 to the fall of 2010.

The GSR allows for a six-year window in which the student-athlete can earn his or her degree. Although the GSR includes student-athletes who transferred to Nebraska, it does not count student-athletes who transferred to another school and were academically eligible at the time of their transfer.
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #248 on: November 09, 2017, 05:21:07 PM »
I'm sorry,  GSR, where I've worked before stands for Gunshot Residue.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #249 on: November 10, 2017, 12:04:46 PM »
I've always been of the opinion that any new coach should be allowed to choose his own assistants. If Patterson interviewed and liked Watson, then great. If not, then so be it. Watson's offenses scored a lot of points against bad teams. Against the better ones, not so much.
I agree..  Solich was also handicapped by TO on keeping asst coaches.
In the end I think Bo coming to UNL was more about re-establishing someone from the Solich camp than anything else.  Add to it the Defense was a big problem with BC's team.... and you have the "dream" fit.

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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #250 on: November 10, 2017, 12:16:50 PM »
Quote from Jim Walden:

"I always come back to the same conclusion — that Nebraska lost its edge when it brought in Bill Callahan (in 2004)," Walden said. "Boy, I'm telling you, it can take 100 years to get a program to a certain point and only a couple to put it back down the tubes.

"I just think when Nebraska fired Frankie Solich (following the 2003 season), it was a bad, bad, bad day. In my heart of hearts, I believe Nebraska has never regained its status because of those tormenting years thorough Callahan. Boy, it has really hurt.


"Now, to be fair, Bo Pelini came in and did a pretty good job. He was a little goofy but kind of got the thing back on track, and I really thought Mike would pick it up from there. …"
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Re: Nebraska 2017 In-Season Thread
« Reply #251 on: November 10, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
As a football coach, Walden was a nice guy.
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