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Topic: Nebraska (0-1, 0-3) at #19 Michigan (1-0, 3-1) Post Game

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #56 on: September 20, 2018, 06:41:32 AM »
I see an opportunity for the Huskers if Martinez plays with Hudson out for Michigan in the first half.  
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #57 on: September 20, 2018, 08:00:06 AM »
Patterson looks way better than I thought he would. Add to the fact that he's missing the teams top WR in Tarik Black due to injury 
Goes to show you how wrong ratings/rankings can be.Both DPJ & Collins were 4/5 *s and T.Black was rated a 3  believe coming out.Though TB hasn't seen the field enough to conclusively suggest he's the most talented he has certainly passed the EYE test in the limited time he's gotten snaps
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #58 on: September 20, 2018, 08:33:12 AM »
Not sure I agree with this line of thinking. Notre Dame may well be overrated and they may have well beaten Michigan, but perspective please. It was the opening game of the season on the road, at night no less. We saw that Ohio State 2014 team. They lost at night at home to a Virginia Tech team that finished 7-6 and that OSU team went on to win a title. Not a good idea to over-react to the first couple weeks of a season one way or the other. Better to let things play out.
Ed Warriner is trying to remake an OL unit that was a disaster in 2017 and Shea Patterson was making his first start in a new offense with new receivers that he's never played in live action with. It takes time for an OL unit to gel and it takes time for a QB to develop that chemistry with receivers. That's all not going to happen game one, on the road at night. Add to that mix ND being fired up and Wimbush making magic on a couple deep throws that he normally never makes- and that's how you have 24-17. Like that 45 yard TD bomb that the little 5'9 white receiver jumped over the 6'2 safety Brad Hawkins in which he snatched away an INT from Hawkins and scored a TD- that stuff just doesn't happen most games- did in that one in that environment.
I will say this. Shea Patterson is by far the best QB that I've seen at Michigan under Harbaugh and he's the best QB they've had in a looooong time. That's not even remotely close. They have receiver talent up the wazoo with DPJ, Gentry, Perry, and Nico Collins, and it'll only improve that much more once Tarik Black is back from injury. Shea looks like the real deal to me. This season will all hinge on Ed Warriner being the real deal. He needs to get that OL unit playing at a functional level by midseason and playing it's best ball by the end of the season. He does that- Michigan will be just fine.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #59 on: September 20, 2018, 09:06:31 AM »
I see an opportunity for the Huskers if Martinez plays with Hudson out for Michigan in the first half.  
build a huge 14 point lead in the first half and hang on for dear life?
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #60 on: September 20, 2018, 10:23:53 AM »
1) I think Michigan may be a tad overrated. Notre Dame is 3-0 but they have been barely scraping by with close wins over bad teams since their close win over Michigan. That makes Michigan's loss to them look worse, IMHO.

Time will tell how good ND is.  I though the Irish D was solid. And 14 of Notre Dame’s points were scored in the first 8 minutes of the season.  After that Michigan’s D clamped down and the O with suspect OL outscored the Irish.  So, I’m comfortable with Michigan at 19.  Certainly a huge gap between them and the Buckeyes.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #61 on: September 20, 2018, 10:50:01 AM »
Goes to show you how wrong ratings/rankings can be.Both DPJ & Collins were 4/5 *s and T.Black was rated a 3  believe coming out.Though TB hasn't seen the field enough to conclusively suggest he's the most talented he has certainly passed the EYE test in the limited time he's gotten snaps
No doubt about Black. Though that's routinely the case in the northeastern states. There's a large, underrated and untapped quantity/quality of talent there. I love when Michigan pulls 3-stars from that area in particular. I haven't crunched any numbers but those kids are among the nation's best overachievers.
I wouldn't say that the services whiffed on Collins or DPJ, though. They look great. With Shea dealing, DPJ in particular has been blossoming.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #62 on: September 20, 2018, 10:53:16 AM »
Nebraska Cornhuskers (0-2) at #19 Michigan Wolverines (2-1)
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How many years does Nebraska have to be in the conference before we stop hearing the 1997 what ifs every time they play Michigan?  With Frost coaching his first game in the series, there was going to be a natural uptick this year.  Hopefully absent Brian Griese taking the Michigan job at some point in the future this will be peak for that.  Neither team is where they were in 1997, but obviously Michigan is much closer.  They are in Year 4 of their coaching regime, so their "rebuild" whatever it was, is over.  Nebraska's is just beginning, and is including a massive overhaul of offensive systems.  I picked Troy to upset them last week without Martinez, and that panned out.  Sounds almost certain Martinez will play this week, which as a neutral fan is a good thing.  He's fun to watch, and it's clear that Frost's offense is fully dependent on having a quarterback with his skill set in there.  They've faced a mediocre defense in Colorado (#50 in S&P+ defense) and a bad one in Troy (#96).  Michigan's is #7, and probably after the first drive of the season, is much higher.  The "weak spot" if there is one, is at linebacker, now particularly with Hudson suspended for the first half due to a targeting ejection in the second half against SMU.  You still have a Butkus Award candidate there in Devin Bush Jr., so as I said, relatively.  So while the Huskers don't have the personnel yet, this is the type of attack that could help negate Michigan's strengths at cornerback and pass rush, because their run defense has been merely fine.  Not that anyone is trying to hand out Blackshirts to the group, but the Nebraska defense has been better than the blame they've taken.  The turnover differential isn't helping, averaging 3 turnovers, and -2 per game, both 2nd worst in the Big Ten.  The overall scoring and total defense numbers don't look great, but on a per play basis, they are only allowing 2.7 yards per carry, 3rd best in the Big Ten, and 6.5 yards per pass attempt, squarely in the middle.  To help this offense in transition though they have to create more turnovers, particularly this week.  For Michigan's offense, this is a good litmus test.  They looked bad against Notre Dame.  While the Wimbush we saw that night was probably not the real Wimbush, the Irish defense appears to be every bit of what we saw, still a top 5 unit nationally.  After that they played a pair of defenses ranked outside the top 100.  So judging anything, positive or negative, from those three games seems unfair.  Nebraska's defense is more indicative of the type of defense Michigan is likely to play week in and week out.  Karan Higdon is expected to play Saturday, and that is huge.  The run game struggled without him against SMU.  While Chris Evans is a home run threat, he's clearly not an every down back.  Instead the offense leaned heavily on the passing game, and Donovan Peoples-Jones had his coming out party, with 3 touchdowns.  Banking on 13.2 yards per attempt is generally not a good strategy.  Win or lose, coming out of this game I think we can finally draw some conclusions about this offense.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #63 on: September 20, 2018, 10:58:06 AM »
You still have good vision for Michigan, ELA

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #64 on: September 20, 2018, 11:38:55 AM »
he has good vision for Nebraska as well
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #65 on: September 21, 2018, 11:36:25 AM »
Some additional thoughts on this game:

If I was Michigan's DC.. I'd have my DL forget about assignments this week and shoot the gaps created by UNL's wide splits.  UNL's OL are big, but slow.  They were recruited for a pass pro system.  They don't move well or pull well... both things Frost wants his team to do.   You'll give up some plays, but you'll also start UNL out at 2nd and 15 and get them off schedule.   You'll win a lot more than you lose.

Also.. while UNL's freshman RB has talent and speed, he carries the ball in his right arm exclusively.  He's worth a fumble every game.   I do believe UNL will have more than 3 turnovers in this game.  My guess would be 4.  

2018 will not find success or failure from a transition standpoint based upon winning or losing this game.  Having to start a walkon QB vs Purdue or NW would be a failure.   JMO, but I wouldn't risk AM knee vs Michigan's DL.   But that's just me..
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #66 on: September 21, 2018, 11:48:38 AM »
...and throw at #21. Alot. 

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #67 on: September 21, 2018, 11:52:33 AM »
...and throw at #21. Alot.
yes... the highly regarded DB of Riley's first class who still likes to spin around when a WR changes direction. 

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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #68 on: September 21, 2018, 12:37:42 PM »
this game scares me a lot for two reasons.

1) Harbaugh is a stubborn sob. He's going to try to force the run when he's got a QB who can really spin it. Which probably means the game will be closer than it has to be. Instead of coming out and letting Shea throw it all over the parking lot and try to score points fast- he'll probably come out and try to run run run, let Shea throw 20 times or less and run 45-50. Stupid. With a captial S.

2) The defense has been lethargic. They just aren't playing with the same kind of edge and the same kind of urgency that we've become used to seeing out of a Don Brown defense.

This game definitely worries me.
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Re: Nebraska (0-2) at #19 Michigan (2-1) Game Week
« Reply #69 on: September 21, 2018, 01:14:18 PM »
No reason to be concerned. We have no DBs that can cover your WRs, no WRs that can outrun your DBs, no OL that can block your defensive front, and one LB that can run with Patterson...he'll be suspended for the first half.

Husker fans are pinning their hopes on a Michigan OL that is nowhere near the mess they think it is, and an 18yo freshman QB with one game of collegiate experience. If the roles were reversed, they'd think talk of an upset was laughable. It is. 

The only way NU finishes within 28 points is if UM shuts it down in the 4th and we score a couple garbage-time TDs against soft zone. 

 

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