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This post is exemplary of the disconnect between everything I've said and what you think I mean.  Jesus Christ.  I don't give a shit which team benefits.  If I'm going to be hounded by the "the results should matter" chant endlessly on this board, then why in the holy hell is everyone suddenly trying to sweep TCU's conference championship loss under the rug?!?!?!?! 

It's not about TCU not deserving a CFP spot, it's about their CCG loss having zero consequences.  Their game vs KSU needn't have been played.  They end up with one loss, yet didn't drop 1 spot in the rankings.  OSU was right behind them with a much better loss as their only loss, but didn't move up. 

Someone find me an example of that ever happening.  I'll wait.

What you've stated is that you want the best four teams and that we shouldn't just line up teams based on number of losses. The idea being that quality of team is a lot more complicated than just the number of losses they've suffered, right. 

The counter to that argument is that last year, the CFP Committee apparently believed that despite the CCG loss, TCU was still the third-best team in the country. You can't both state that the quality of a team is not entirely dependent on number of losses and then b!tch about it because they didn't automatically drop a team far enough after a loss to satisfy you. 

It's all just a beauty pageant. You're just mad that their version of beauty doesn't line up with yours. 

Didn't drop them "far enough"...........are you incapable of an honest back-and-forth?!?


They didn't drop them at all. 
Stop pretending I'm being unreasonable and whiney. 

You guys defending this has got you using word salad and backtracking on yourselves.

Yes, they didn't drop them at all. Which means that the prima facia interpretation of the committee's behavior is that they thought they were still the third-best team in the country, despite the loss. 

What's hard to understand about that?

Didn't drop them "far enough"...........are you incapable of an honest back-and-forth?!?


They didn't drop them at all. 
Stop pretending I'm being unreasonable and whiney. 

You guys defending this has got you using word salad and backtracking on yourselves.

You don't respond to anyone's points. You want them dropped behind OSU. But they had a better record than OSU. OSU didn't make its championship game, and they lost their last game, too. Further, who the hell cares? They should have dropped TCU one spot as an appropriate punishment for losing a game? How is this even a discussion?

It isn't about recruiting and I think FSU's recruiting is pretty strong anyway. It is about them losing a QB and looking REALLY shaky without him.

I can only imagine if one of those games was similar to how Alabama played against Auburn.

Yes it is.  With one person here. 

It isn't about recruiting and I think FSU's recruiting is pretty strong anyway. It is about them losing a QB and looking REALLY shaky without him.

So it's not about resume, it's about how talented the available roster is.

2004 MSU went 1-2 while their starting QB was recovering from an ACL tear.  They were down double digits in Game 4, and then brought him in at halftime, and they came back and won by double digits.  If MSU had won out, they would deserve a bid, because we don't grade on resume, we grade the roster you bring, and so those 2 losses don't count?  In the 12 team playoff you are better off resting guys, because any losses or poor performances don't count if it's not the roster you bring to the playoff.  Whereas if a guy gets hurt, and then you have a bad game, that's all you are judged on