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Re: NCAA
« Reply #266 on: February 19, 2024, 08:41:07 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 19, 2024, 07:57:05 PM
I'm the one being told losses matter, yet those same people telling me that are also defending TCU's loss not mattering.  And not as in kinda-sorta not mattering, or mattering less than normal, but utterly not mattering so completely that if they didn't play the game, nothing would have been different.
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There are many examples of losses not mattering. So, so many. Obama v. Auburn. Georgia v. Bama. OSU v. PSU. And many more.
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #267 on: February 20, 2024, 06:37:52 AM »
A "systemic change" means a basic core change to hte system, not just some "I wish they'd act differently".  

Losses do matter, way more often than not.  There are special situations where they may not appear to have had any effect.  It happens.  Usually, a key loss late will matter.

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« Reply #268 on: February 20, 2024, 08:50:00 AM »
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #269 on: February 20, 2024, 08:54:33 AM »
Folks could focus on the few occasions where a loss had no, or limited, negative impact, or look overall and see how it USUALLY does.  Either way, it's just complaining without proposing some kind of systemic change in THE SYSTEM.

How often has some late loss bounced a team from the BCS or CFP?  Sure, it matters, with a very few exceptions.  We have this committee system now, I haven't heard anyone suggest anything different from that.
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« Reply #270 on: February 20, 2024, 09:00:14 AM »
OAM is suggesting 
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #271 on: February 20, 2024, 09:01:00 AM »
Yeah, that we have 4th graders do it?
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« Reply #272 on: February 20, 2024, 09:04:52 AM »
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« Reply #273 on: February 20, 2024, 09:50:08 AM »
The 4th graders would have gotten Florida State right
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« Reply #274 on: February 20, 2024, 10:26:22 AM »
Quote from: MaximumSam on February 20, 2024, 09:50:08 AM
The 4th graders would have gotten Florida State right
The committee already got FSU right, they weren't close to one of the best four teams.
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« Reply #275 on: February 20, 2024, 10:33:58 AM »
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #276 on: February 20, 2024, 10:58:17 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on February 19, 2024, 07:57:05 PM
I'm the one being told losses matter, yet those same people telling me that are also defending TCU's loss not mattering.  And not as in kinda-sorta not mattering, or mattering less than normal, but utterly not mattering so completely that if they didn't play the game, nothing would have been different.
Is your issue that the TCU loss didn't matter as much as normal, or is your issue that TCU got in at all and you think they just didn't belong? Especially when the program on the outside looking in at #5 was SEC darling Bama?
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« Reply #277 on: February 20, 2024, 10:59:14 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on February 20, 2024, 10:26:22 AM
The committee already got FSU right, they weren't close to one of the best four teams.
They didn't accumulate enough data points. Their composite recruiting ranking should have been higher. Fourth graders can't understand this.
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« Reply #278 on: February 20, 2024, 07:07:51 PM »
Quote from: betarhoalphadelta on February 20, 2024, 10:58:17 AM
Is your issue that the TCU loss didn't matter as much as normal, or is your issue that TCU got in at all and you think they just didn't belong? Especially when the program on the outside looking in at #5 was SEC darling Bama?

This post is exemplary of the disconnect between everything I've said and what you think I mean.  Jesus Christ.  I don't give a shit which team benefits.  If I'm going to be hounded by the "the results should matter" chant endlessly on this board, then why in the holy hell is everyone suddenly trying to sweep TCU's conference championship loss under the rug?!?!?!?!   

It's not about TCU not deserving a CFP spot, it's about their CCG loss having zero consequences.  Their game vs KSU needn't have been played.  They end up with one loss, yet didn't drop 1 spot in the rankings.  OSU was right behind them with a much better loss as their only loss, but didn't move up.  

Someone find me an example of that ever happening.  I'll wait.
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #279 on: February 20, 2024, 07:13:32 PM »
If it seems like I'm oddly clinging on to this, it's only because a majority of you are going back on yourselves 180 degrees.

If the game outcomes (ie - Ws vs Ls) matter so much and tact and nuance and context are irrelevant (not sure when THAT happened), then TCU staying at #3 after a loss is the avalanche of bullshit that I think it is and many of you have proclaimed it is.

To have some of you pretending it doesn't go against everything you've previously said is a lie.
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