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MaximumSam

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #252 on: February 17, 2024, 03:42:26 PM »
You're 7 years old.

Let's rank Liberty ahead of Penn State.  Hey, maybe you'll grow up to be an astronaut someday!!!
Ah, so losses should be penalized and penalizing losses means you're thinking like a small child. We mere mortals can only hope to reach this level of reasoning.

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« Reply #253 on: February 17, 2024, 05:02:13 PM »
When you act like all losses are equal, yeah, you're not an adult yet.
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #254 on: February 17, 2024, 05:07:34 PM »
Can you at least admit that Liberty is better than the Gators? 

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #255 on: February 18, 2024, 07:16:42 AM »
This "conversation" reminds me of work.  We were once told to have a series of meetings to discuss what could be done better.  At the time, I was in a group that was mostly young folks.  They had complaint after complaint.  Our section leader was older and dutifully took them all down.  None of them were "actionable", they were all ethereal wants of things.  "I want the rating system to be fair" was one such example.  I think we had about three such convos before it was shut down, the most common request was to have fewer meetings.  And life went on.

Life is, in part, figuring out what items you can really influence and change, or at least offer a suggestion about that is real, and those items that are well out of your purview.  You can complain about them if it makes you feel better, folks do that a lot.  It's wasted energy.

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #256 on: February 18, 2024, 07:50:04 AM »
I'm going to sit here and enjoy my coffee


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« Reply #257 on: February 18, 2024, 11:52:56 PM »
I'm perfectly calm, dude.

Cincy keeps asking for something I provided.  He's losing it.
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« Reply #258 on: February 19, 2024, 08:08:55 AM »
Calmer than you are,  dude 
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #259 on: February 19, 2024, 08:43:46 AM »
A systemic change is what I requested.  What you provided is some wish list, things like "losses should count", and of course they do, already, and have in the past.  You also suggest "they" do better than 4th graders, which is another wish, with no enablement.

I wish the homeless had shelter and the hungry had food and wars would end.  It's facile.  And pointless.

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« Reply #260 on: February 19, 2024, 05:14:30 PM »
A systemic change is what I requested.  What you provided is some wish list, things like "losses should count", and of course they do, already, and have in the past.  
11/29 Playoff Rankings
2. Michigan 12-0
3. TCU 12-0
4. USC 11-1
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2. Michigan 13-0
3. TCU 12-1 (lost to #13 KSU)
4  Ohio St 11-1
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10 USC 11-2 (lost to #12 Utah)
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Tell me again that losses count.  I guess they count if you're USC in 2022, but not if you're TCU.  
Simple request is that losses count with any semblance of consistency.  
Hell, even 7 year-olds wouldn't have done this with TCU and USC.  
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« Reply #261 on: February 19, 2024, 05:36:17 PM »
11/29 Playoff Rankings
2. Michigan 12-0
3. TCU 12-0
4. USC 11-1
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2. Michigan 13-0
3. TCU 12-1 (lost to #13 KSU)
4  Ohio St 11-1
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10 USC 11-2 (lost to #12 Utah)
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Tell me again that losses count.  I guess they count if you're USC in 2022, but not if you're TCU. 
Simple request is that losses count with any semblance of consistency. 
Hell, even 7 year-olds wouldn't have done this with TCU and USC. 
USC lost by 23 points. TCU lost by 3, in OT. I wouldn't say that the losses were equal, so why would they be treated the same? You're the guy who says TCU shouldn't have been in based on the 65-7 loss, so wouldn't you say a three-score blowout loss in their conference championship game should punish USC more than being tied at the end of regulation and losing in OT punishes TCU?

And frankly you KNOW that TCU would have moved down below at least OSU... But the committee was playing the game to avoid Michigan and OSU facing each other in the semis. 

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #262 on: February 19, 2024, 05:54:49 PM »
None of the 'USC was blown out' point addresses the fact that TCU was not penalized at all, lol.  

And if your defense for one shit idea (not penalizing TCU) is another shit idea (ranking to avoid a rematch), have fun with that, boss.
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« Reply #263 on: February 19, 2024, 06:45:19 PM »
None of the 'USC was blown out' point addresses the fact that TCU was not penalized at all, lol. 

And if your defense for one shit idea (not penalizing TCU) is another shit idea (ranking to avoid a rematch), have fun with that, boss.
They weren't ranked #1 or #2, so there was some penalty

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #264 on: February 19, 2024, 07:25:40 PM »
None of the 'USC was blown out' point addresses the fact that TCU was not penalized at all, lol. 

And if your defense for one shit idea (not penalizing TCU) is another shit idea (ranking to avoid a rematch), have fun with that, boss.
Maybe the committee still thought they were the #3 team in the country despite a loss? I wasn't in the room where it happened

You're the one that says we shouldn't rank by number of losses. Well, in this case they dropped one team based on a loss and not another team. They didn't blindly assume that a loss MUST be fatal to their CFP resume. Are we going to assume that they had ZERO rationale for why they still thought TCU was worthy, right or wrong?

You extrapolate and say 65-7 says they weren't worthy. But, ya know, they DID beat the #2 seed to get into that game where they got trounced. There maybe was SOMETHING there? 

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #265 on: February 19, 2024, 07:57:05 PM »
Maybe the committee still thought they were the #3 team in the country despite a loss? I wasn't in the room where it happened.

You're the one that says we shouldn't rank by number of losses. Well, in this case they dropped one team based on a loss and not another team. They didn't blindly assume that a loss MUST be fatal to their CFP resume. Are we going to assume that they had ZERO rationale for why they still thought TCU was worthy, right or wrong?

You extrapolate and say 65-7 says they weren't worthy. But, ya know, they DID beat the #2 seed to get into that game where they got trounced. There maybe was SOMETHING there?

I'm the one being told losses matter, yet those same people telling me that are also defending TCU's loss not mattering.  And not as in kinda-sorta not mattering, or mattering less than normal, but utterly not mattering so completely that if they didn't play the game, nothing would have been different.
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