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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #210 on: February 14, 2024, 06:21:17 PM »
Again, sure, but in October there were a million teams that could have jumped them. Not so by the end of the season. There is no magic rule where losing a game means you must drop below every other team no matter what their records and common sense would tell you.
This is delicious.

I get flack and am accused of not thinking the games should matter.

And here you are, supporting the idea of the outcome of a game not mattering. 

Amazing!
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #211 on: February 14, 2024, 06:22:17 PM »
Again, sure, but in October there were a million teams that could have jumped them. 
This is utter nonsense.  
You can't possibly believe this.

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #212 on: February 14, 2024, 06:31:28 PM »
I'm personally not really bothered by the committee's decisions.  Maybe I'd have chosen differently, so what?  It's not at all clear to me that they were wrong, ever.  It's arguable, sure, but to what end?

This isn't really about the committee being wrong.  It's worse.  
It's not even about arguing this team vs that team.

The problem is that a conference championship game outcome was literally irrelevant.
That's dangerous for the sport.
It's also indefensible, as per the drivel posts here on the subject.  ie - a team loses in Oct drops down, but doesn't in the final poll.  The fuck?
The teams ranked directly behind a team that loses (with similar resumes) aren't good enough to move up?  The fuck??

I believe this all started in 2003, with OU losing the Big XII (them again) CG to KSU (them again) and staying #1 despite this.  Like it never even happened.
But we had the (altered) computers to blame.  So we put it in the hands of humans.  
And yet, here we are.  Another Big XII CG didn't need to be played.  

And some of you are defending it.  
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #213 on: February 14, 2024, 07:04:05 PM »
Great.

Listen up, everyone!  Don't schedule any top 15 teams!  Just get that zero in the loss column!  That's all it takes!!!
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #214 on: February 14, 2024, 07:15:16 PM »
This is utter nonsense. 
You can't possibly believe this.


Is this real? This has to be a bit. The week after they beat Kansas State, they were 7-0 and ranked 7th in the AP poll. Had they lost, they would have been 6-1. At the time, there were thirteen teams with one loss in the AP poll. You are here, I guess seriously, trying to claim that the polls at that time and the polls at the end of the season were somehow remotely similar. This is utter nonsense.

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #215 on: February 14, 2024, 09:21:08 PM »
I guess they should leave the spots behind certain teams blank if they're unable to be ranked by number of losses (as how a child would).
1. Georgia 7-0
2. 
3. 
4. Michigan 6-1
5. Ohio St 6-1
6. Alabama 5-1
7. Oregon 6-1
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9. 
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11. Penn St 5-2
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Yup, that's better.  Let's do that.  I'll propose to the committee.
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #216 on: February 14, 2024, 09:35:08 PM »
I guess they should leave the spots behind certain teams blank if they're unable to be ranked by number of losses (as how a child would).
1. Georgia 7-0
2.
3.
4. Michigan 6-1
5. Ohio St 6-1
6. Alabama 5-1
7. Oregon 6-1
8.
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10.
11. Penn St 5-2
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Yup, that's better.  Let's do that.  I'll propose to the committee.
I mean...this is what you keep saying you want. No matter the results on the field, only a small handful of teams can actually be included. The Afro poll.

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #217 on: February 14, 2024, 09:56:03 PM »
He would cancel the regular season and just set up a 2 team playoff between the top 2 teams in the 247 composite.

I'll give him credit, he is never hypocritical.  He consistently wants a small postseason where results don't matter.  The fewer meaningful games the bettwr

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #218 on: February 14, 2024, 10:34:25 PM »
the big 12 champ is even less of an issue than ever before next season
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #219 on: February 14, 2024, 11:22:29 PM »
He would cancel the regular season and just set up a 2 team playoff between the top 2 teams in the 247 composite.

How in the hell do you get this from my posts?  
Please, explain it to me.  I have no earthly clue.
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« Reply #220 on: February 14, 2024, 11:24:25 PM »
I mean...this is what you keep saying you want. No matter the results on the field, only a small handful of teams can actually be included. The Afro poll.
I guess I could straw man you and say UCF was the 2017 National Champions??  I've given up expecting you to support your opinions with any kind of rationale long ago.
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Re: NCAA
« Reply #221 on: February 15, 2024, 05:48:56 AM »
I don't know what OAM would suggest or propose other than he dislikes what we have now.

Fine with me.

I agree the current system is flawed.  It's kind of like "democracy".

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« Reply #222 on: February 15, 2024, 07:32:03 AM »
How in the hell do you get this from my posts? 
Please, explain it to me.  I have no earthly clue.
Because you keep saying TCU had no business being in the playoff, and FSU had no business being in the playoff, and it is a big lie when any G5 team is even contemplating making the playoff. These are your words.

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Re: NCAA
« Reply #223 on: February 15, 2024, 07:33:27 AM »
I guess I could straw man you and say UCF was the 2017 National Champions??  I've given up expecting you to support your opinions with any kind of rationale long ago.
See. I use facts to directly to directly respond to your actual words, and then you always respond that no one understands what you are trying to say. Yet you never clarify what you are trying to say. It's always something else, unknowable, and everyone else is wrong for not knowing it.

 

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