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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #70 on: May 29, 2018, 04:38:28 PM »
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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #71 on: May 29, 2018, 07:19:10 PM »
Rooting for Bron to get another ring but I don't see the Cavs lasting even 6 games. 
I thought I settled my debts that night on the ride home
But I have still got hell to pay

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #72 on: May 30, 2018, 01:18:41 AM »
Ok, I stand corrected, he pretty much did.  
I just don't get this team.  In three playoff series so far they:
  • Needed seven games to barely survive the #5 seed Indiana Pacers.  
  • Easily coasted past the #1 seed Toronto Raptors in a sweep.  
  • Needed seven games to barely survive the #2 seed Boston Celtics despite Boston missing some very important pieces.  

In theory the Raptors should have been by far the toughest opponent.  
But the NBA regular season is weird.  Players don't play hard every game.  Hell, teams don't try to win every game.  They sit guys to rest them and instead of spacing it out in order to try to squeak out as many wins as possible, they simply play games with their B-side guys.  The NBA is wanting to combat this, but that's when the 1-game injuries start to happen, lol.
The NBA season is a marathon followed by 4 one-mile runs.  You won't win the title if you exhaust yourself in the marathon.  Toronto was the favorite in seed only - look at the odd makers at the beginning of the playoffs.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/2018-nba-playoffs-odds-to-win-championship-finals-conference-east-west-warriors-rockets-cavs-raptors-76ers/172klmu7ka7vj14pp34c3gfsb7
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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #73 on: May 30, 2018, 07:10:34 PM »
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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #74 on: May 31, 2018, 10:49:48 AM »
Toronto was the favorite in seed only - look at the odd makers at the beginning of the playoffs.
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/news/2018-nba-playoffs-odds-to-win-championship-finals-conference-east-west-warriors-rockets-cavs-raptors-76ers/172klmu7ka7vj14pp34c3gfsb7
Interesting, thank you for sharing.  I looked and while I agree that Toronto was not the Eastern Conference Favorite, look at their odds:
  • #4 seed:  Cavs -110
  • #1 seed:  Raptors +200
  • #3 seed:  76ers +375
  • #4 seed:  Celtics +3,000
  • #8 seed:  Wizards +4,000
  • #7 seed:  Bucks +5,000
  • #5 seed:  Pacers +10,000
  • #6 seed:  Heat +10,000
I get that the Cavs rather than the Raptors were the favorite and we can all see why but still, the Raptors were next.  They still should have been LeBron's toughest opponent but they were not, not by a long shot.  The +10,000 Pacers and the +3,000 Celtics each put up a LOT more resistance. 

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #75 on: May 31, 2018, 11:17:57 AM »
But the NBA regular season is weird.  Players don't play hard every game.  Hell, teams don't try to win every game.  They sit guys to rest them and instead of spacing it out in order to try to squeak out as many wins as possible, they simply play games with their B-side guys.  The NBA is wanting to combat this, but that's when the 1-game injuries start to happen, lol.
The NBA season is a marathon followed by 4 one-mile runs.  You won't win the title if you exhaust yourself in the marathon.  
This is why, IMHO, they should cut the playoffs down to the top-4 in each Conference only.  Then the playoff race, and by extension the regular season in general, would REALLY matter.  
East Playoff Race this year:
With 10 games to go then last-10, then final, then seed (Bold if changed from with 10-games to go):
  • 53-19 Toronto, 6-4, 59-23, #1 seed
  • 49-23 Boston, 6-4, 55-27, #2 seed
  • 43-29 Cleveland, 7-3, 50-32 #4 seed
  • 42-30 Philly, 10-0, 52-30, #3 seed
  • 41-31 Indiana, 7-3, 48-34, #5 seed
  • 40-32 Washington, 3-7, 43-39, #8 seed
  • 39-33 Miami, 5-5, 44-38, #6 seed
  • 38-34 Milwaukee, 6-4, 44-38 #7 seed
  • 32-40 Detroit, 7-3, 39-43, First team out

Basically nothing interesting happened in the last-10 games.  Toronto and Boston had effectively clinched the top-2 seeds with 10 to go and Detroit was an extreme long-shot.  Philly surged past Cleveland for the #3 seed and Washington nosedived from 6th to 8th but so what?  

Cleveland, Philly, Indiana, Washington, Miami, and Milwaukee were all within 5-games of each other for the #3 through #8 seeds but did it really matter?  IMHO, it did not.  

Now imagine for a minute if only the top-4 went to the playoffs.  Six teams within five games for two spots would have been VERY exciting.  

West Playoff Race this year:
With 10 games to go then last-10, then final, then seed (Bold if changed from with 10-games to go):
  • 58-14 Houston, 7-3, 65-17, #1 seed
  • 54-18 Golden State, 4-6, 58-24, #2 seed
  • 44-28 Portland, 5-5, 49-33, #3 seed
  • 43-29 OKC, 5-5, 48-34, #4 seed
  • 42-30 NOLA, 6-4, 48-34, #6 seed
  • 42-30 San Antonio, 5-5, 47-35, #7 seed
  • 41-31 Utah, 7-3, 48-34, #5 seed
  • 41-31 Minnesota, 6-4, 47-35, #8 seed
  • 39-33 Denver, 7-3, 46-36, First team out
  • 38-34 LAC, 4-6, 42-40, Second team out

Houston and Golden State had clinched the top-2 seeds with 10 games to go but the West race was somewhat more interesting because the Nuggets and Clippers were within range of the Jazz and Timberwolves.  Still, that isn't very interesting when you consider that the reward for winning that race was to get slaughtered by the Rockets/Warriors in the first round.  

Now imagine for a minute if only the top-4 went to the playoffs.  Eight teams within six games for two spots would have been VERY exciting.  

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #76 on: June 01, 2018, 09:07:13 AM »
Anyone watch game 1? Cleveland almost stole it. Like had the ball under the basket 4.5 seconds left, tie game, and forgot to shoot for the win, almost stole the game.

JR Smith plays the part of  "heel". He slips and takes out Klay Thompson, Gives Currey a "wide open" 30 ft before half shot, Gets an offensive rebound with 4.5 seconds left and runs out the clock instead of passing or shooting.

Kevin Love can't guard the perimeter. 

"Hack-a-James" is in full effect. Hit Lebrons hands / wrists as hard and as often as you can and know the refs will let it be game on, but breath funny close to a less durable player and expect those touch fuls to get called. 

Lebrons whining about isn't very becoming of someone in the conversation of GOAT. I loved the fact the one of the analysts called out continually how bad the refs were, and how bad the whining was.

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #77 on: June 01, 2018, 09:09:49 AM »
I agree with medina, 16 out of 30 teams (NBA & NHL) is too many teams in the playoffs. 

Brutus Buckeye

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #78 on: June 01, 2018, 09:16:25 AM »
That was one helluva missed opportunity right there. 
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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #79 on: June 01, 2018, 09:34:57 AM »
That was one helluva missed opportunity right there.
Sure was, and I feel like it is bigger than one game.  Cavs are the underdog for a reason and the underdog can't afford to miss opportunities like that.  If you go back to the 2016 series, GS won by:
  • 33 in game 2 (when up 1-0)
  • 15 in game 1
  • 11 in game 4 (when up 2-1)
Cleveland won by:
  • 30 in game 3 (when down 2-0)
  • 15 in game 5 (when down 3-1)
  • 14 in game 6 (when down 3-2)
  • 4 in game 7 (tied 3-3)

Each team had a blowout win (30+) and two solid wins (11-15).  Cleveland won the series because they won the close game.  

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #80 on: June 01, 2018, 10:43:39 AM »
Like this?


It would make more sense if James was on the bottom carrying the rest of the team

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #81 on: June 03, 2018, 11:51:59 PM »
I threw up in mouth a little watching game 2.

Brutus Buckeye

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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #82 on: June 04, 2018, 12:27:33 AM »
If they can hold serve at home, they are still in it. 

Pretty big IF, obviously. 
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Re: NBA Playoffs
« Reply #83 on: June 04, 2018, 10:35:43 AM »
Anyone else catch they were partying at the Oracle like they had won the title already? and that Paul Pierce commented well this is probable their last game at home. 

 

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