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Topic: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #70 on: December 30, 2021, 07:46:51 PM »
Fun to watch.  Always fun to watch Tennessee lose.
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #71 on: December 30, 2021, 07:47:21 PM »
Bullshit. The whistle came after he broke the plane.
As they said it's irrelevant by rule.

Correct ruling, but Tennessee got jobbed by the refs to even call it stopped forward progress. Bad call by the line judge. 

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #72 on: December 30, 2021, 07:49:15 PM »
As a matter of philosophy, I like a forward progress call anytime the player would be down but is laying on top of someone else. But it was pretty close.

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #73 on: December 30, 2021, 07:52:51 PM »
I REALLY don't like the idear of the O-lineman pulling the runner's arm over the goal line, but it's allowed by rule
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #74 on: December 30, 2021, 07:53:55 PM »
Fun to watch.  Always fun to watch Tennessee lose.
always fun to watch the SEC SEC SEC go 0-fer during bowl season
and, no one will cornvince me that the Vols players weren't motivated
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #75 on: December 30, 2021, 07:57:43 PM »
As they said it's irrelevant by rule.

Correct ruling, but Tennessee got jobbed by the refs to even call it stopped forward progress. Bad call by the line judge.
Yeah, that’s a tough way to lose.  I have to admit in real time it looked like he was down.  I was actually shocked when I saw the replay.  Just a hell of an effort by the RB.  Great game. Fun to watch.

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #76 on: December 30, 2021, 08:01:38 PM »
As they said it's irrelevant by rule.

Correct ruling, but Tennessee got jobbed by the refs to even call it stopped forward progress. Bad call by the line judge.
If it was a 2nd down play in the 3rd quarter of a game in September, it would be ho-hum.  The guy was in a pretzel on an opponent and wasn't moving forward.

Kudos to the ref calling it like it was a normal play.  Because yes, high-drama game-ending plays ARE also normal plays.
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #77 on: December 30, 2021, 08:04:11 PM »
If it was a 2nd down play in the 3rd quarter of a game in September, it would be ho-hum.  The guy was in a pretzel on an opponent and wasn't moving forward.

Kudos to the ref calling it like it was a normal play.  Because yes, high-drama game-ending plays ARE also normal plays.
Tennessee was stupid for not kicking field goal for the 2nd time in that series
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #78 on: December 30, 2021, 08:38:26 PM »
Very entertaining game to watch. 

Two statements from me that have a value of notta and I'm done with it:

#1- the refs sucked and not only on the most controversial call, but in several calls for/against both teams the entire game.  Several were game changing. 

#2- I've always said and I stand by it, that overtime only fixes a technicality; if after 60 minutes of play there is no victor, then on that day they were equals.  I'd be just as happy with a coin flip and nudge forward at the end of regulation as OT is flawed no matter how it's presented. 

Edit: make that three statements- 

#3- Florida losing to a middling G5 team before Christmas is a lot worse than UT losing to a good P5 team.  

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #79 on: December 30, 2021, 08:45:49 PM »
Tennessee was stupid for not kicking field goal for the 2nd time in that series
I'm convinced Hooker was off and likely due to injury sustained in the play that caused him to wear that paint on his right shoulder the remainder of the game.... he couldn't thread a damn thing afterward, though he was actually off even before.  

If true,, this makes the question of why they decided to go for it on 4th even more interesting.  

Purdue played a solid game in the second half, but imHo UT beat themselves in the first half, especially the 2nd quarter.  

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #80 on: December 30, 2021, 08:59:24 PM »
The playing surface didn't do anyone any favors all night.
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #81 on: December 30, 2021, 09:34:25 PM »
the Refs overstepped their bounds and did a poor job of it

but, that's football as we know it, unfortunately
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #82 on: December 30, 2021, 09:44:54 PM »
The refs made a call that may have been wrong and thats why we have a review

if a bad call was allowed to stand the reviewers are the ones at fault
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #83 on: December 30, 2021, 10:08:13 PM »
The refs made a call that may have been wrong and thats why we have a review

if a bad call was allowed to stand the reviewers are the ones at fault
Reviewers are part of the crew.  This crew was suspended for two games earlier this season for the duke/Miami debacle that allowed Miami to win. 

Theyre bad, and both Purdue and Tennessee deserved better. 

There was a UT pass one called incomplete, another further away called TD.  It wasn't a TD as replay showed.  There were two where Purdue obviously caught... one was punched out while outside field of play and called no catch while the other was caught in corner of end zone and called no catch (the one where the ankle crumbled) ... there was two blatant PI's on a UT defender and then four more on him that weren't.  It's NOT like it favored one team with any consistency. 

And here is the issue- it's not just this crew, the acc conference crews (the SEC is the worst I've seen), or isolated anywhere.  With cameras offering high quality images from just about any angle we just see them more.  Which IS the issue... put a laser on the field and transponder on the freakin rock and we'll know if it crosses the goal line or down marker, use the cameras on field and get rid of officials except for bouncers on the sideline- offenses use bacj judges to pick defenses, and officials being human makes their mistakes fodder for discussions on message boards.  Use the freakin technology to greatly reduce the human mistake prone practice of officiating a game. 

As said earlier, Purdue deserved to win just as much as UT did entering the game, and both showed they deserved to be there... at end of 60 minutes they showed one was not significantly better than the other- if they were, such as in the UF/UCF game, the refs would have had little chance to impact the results of the contest.  Because both teams were evenly matched tonight it allows for blame to be leveled at factors that shouldn't be a factor and the game to live on.  And on. 

Purdue re-earned my regard tonight.  They played hard and didn't back down.  Much love to them.  I would rather they had lost, but I'm willing to trade the win for the entertainment these teams provided.  It was like going to vegas- sensory overload... where you see something out of the corner of your eye and it hardly registers where had it been anywhere else it would be the conversation for weeks. 

By my estimation, that is the mark of a good game- when at some point who wins or loses becomes just a secondary concern and your're happy you got to see it when it happened more than anything.

 

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