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Topic: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)

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FearlessF

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #84 on: December 30, 2021, 10:14:49 PM »
"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory."
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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #85 on: December 30, 2021, 10:15:13 PM »
Congratulations to Purdue for a well played game.



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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #86 on: December 31, 2021, 12:17:22 AM »
Quote from: Drew4UTk on December 30, 2021, 08:38:26 PM
#2- I've always said and I stand by it, that overtime only fixes a technicality; if after 60 minutes of play there is no victor, then on that day they were equals.  I'd be just as happy with a coin flip and nudge forward at the end of regulation as OT is flawed no matter how it's presented.

I was thinking along those same lines.  I don't understand the fascination of having to have an overtime to force winner and a loser.  The game is played 60 minutes.  If it's tied when that clock runs out, that should be it.

Only in scenarios that determine advancement of only one team should there be an overtime.  Such as tournaments and playoffs.
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WhiskeyM

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Re: Music City Bowl: Purdue (8-4) vs. Tennessee (7-5)
« Reply #87 on: December 31, 2021, 12:36:57 AM »
Quote from: FearlessF on December 30, 2021, 07:52:51 PM
I REALLY don't like the idear of the O-lineman pulling the runner's arm over the goal line, but it's allowed by rule

That's not correct.  It actually is a penalty.  Tennessee should have been flagged and lost 5 yards on the play.

Straight from the NCAA rule book Section 3 Article 2.b.

"The ball carrier shall not grasp a teammate; and no other teammate shall grasp, pull, or lift the ball carrier to assist in forward progress. (A.R. 9-3-2-I)"
PENALTY—Five yards [S44].
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longhorn320

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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #88 on: December 31, 2021, 12:43:21 AM »
Quote from: WhiskeyM on December 31, 2021, 12:36:57 AM
That's not correct.  It actually is a penalty.  Tennessee should have been flagged and lost 5 yards on the play.

Straight from the NCAA rule book Section 3 Article 2.b.

"The ball carrier shall not grasp a teammate; and no other teammate shall grasp, pull, or lift the ball carrier to assist in forward progress. (A.R. 9-3-2-I)"
PENALTY—Five yards [S44].
I guess that rule does not include pushing cause that happens many times in most games
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WhiskeyM

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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2021, 12:47:12 AM »
Quote from: longhorn320 on December 31, 2021, 12:43:21 AM
I guess that rule does not include pushing cause that happens many times in most games

Correct.  It's perfectly legal to push players in.
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Drew4UTk

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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #90 on: December 31, 2021, 01:19:02 AM »
Both versions are illegal... had this convo last week.  The push was removed way back in the day, bit has been let happen, unenforced, for the last 15 or so years.  
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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #91 on: December 31, 2021, 10:01:46 AM »
Quote from: Drew4UTk on December 31, 2021, 01:19:02 AM
Both versions are illegal... had this convo last week.  The push was removed way back in the day, bit has been let happen, unenforced, for the last 15 or so years. 
Really?  I thought there was a rule change to allow it.
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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #92 on: December 31, 2021, 10:28:15 AM »
I guess I'll need to have you show me where pushing is illegal. The 'Bush Push' was an illegal play back in the day. The next year all the announcers raved how the rule was updated to make that ok, and I've been watching every team do it, every game for the last 15 years.
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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #93 on: December 31, 2021, 10:31:42 AM »
Yes, the rule was changed.
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Re: Music City Post Game: Purdue 48, Tennessee 45 (OT)
« Reply #94 on: December 31, 2021, 10:35:05 AM »
They changed the rule, but pulling on a runner to gain yardage is still against the rules.

https://www.footballzebras.com/2019/11/when-is-it-a-foul-for-pulling-a-ball-carrier-forward/
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