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It's a team sport. I'm baffled at how often that gets ignored. (Not by you guys, of course!)
OAM, I fully understand your rules, but I would point out that Jefferson himself thought his presidency was a failure. The Louisiana Purchase turned out to be brilliant, but in 1809 that wasn't obvious. So is Rushmore like the Heisman for greatest Americans, but most voters believed if you hadn't been President, you didn't qualify? TR only won one presidential election. Maybe the presidency was Jefferson's NFL career? But Lincoln's greatest achievements came during his presidency...

Lincoln is obviously a Michael Vick figure, gaining notoriety through speeches/highlights and ultimately coming up short for a senate seat/NC....yet winning in the end: president/#1 overall draft pick.
It's funny you post this, as the most recent youtube video of the channel inspiring this is the Mt Rushmore of non-president Americans...Franklin, King, etc.

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