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Topic: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches

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OrangeAfroMan

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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2026, 07:43:18 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on March 20, 2026, 12:16:55 PM
Imagine a scenario where two head coaches had done really well in college football.  Let's say Coach A won 3 NCs and a slew of other things, and Coach B had won 3 NCs and a comparable slew of other things.  Both had success at three different programs.

Pretty close, but imagine Coach B also won a Super Bowl and his team played in another.  Should that matter if we're judging coaching proficiency?


You're a jackass.
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2026, 09:10:07 PM »
Saban, obviously. You just can’t leave him out. 

Spurrier should be up there, and Bowden too. 

I’d say Paterno, just for longevity. 

Last, that’s a tough one. I’d go with Bob Stoops. 

Honorable mention. Bill Snyder, Mack Brown, Darrel Royal, Bo, Woody. 
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2026, 11:58:10 PM »
You listed 5....
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #47 on: Today at 08:14:04 AM »
Name calling often results from an inability to discuss another’s ideas.
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #48 on: Today at 09:58:31 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on Today at 08:14:04 AM
Name calling often results from an inability to discuss another’s ideas.
Why would anyone want to discuss your ideas?!?

Post: Name your favorite type of apple.
@Cincydawg:  Banana!

I am identifying you and your behavior very precisely, not calling you names.
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #49 on: Today at 10:02:31 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 09:58:31 AM
Why would anyone want to discuss your ideas?!?

Post: Name your favorite type of apple.
@Cincydawg:  Banana!

I am identifying you and your behavior very precisely, not calling you names.
Don't forget the follow up:

"I'm just trying to figure out why people hate bananas so much."
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #50 on: Today at 11:48:15 AM »
Quote from: medinabuckeye1 on March 20, 2026, 02:36:42 PM
IMHO, Paul Brown is the greatest Football Coach ever. 

That said, I don't think he belongs on a "Mount Rushmore of COLLEGE Football Head Coaches" because even if you include his two seasons as the HC at Great Lakes Navy during WWII he still only coached five total seasons of CFB.  If you don't count those it is only the three at Ohio State. 

He gets too little credit, IMHO from Ohio State fans because he was overshadowed by Woody but one of the things that some other people have discussed in this thread is elevating a program and when Woody won NC's at Ohio State it had been done before.  When Paul Brown did it, he was the first. 

Paul Brown's record:
HS:
  • He coached the Severn School Prep Admirals in Maryland for two years and won one State title. 
  • He coached the Massillon Washington Tigers for nine years, won five State titles and four "national titles" (note, HS national titles are even more 'mythical' than college ones but still this is impressive). 
  • Overall he coached 11 seasons of HS football and won six state titles. 
College/wartime military:
  • He coached the Ohio State Buckeyes for three seasons and won Ohio State's first NC in 1942.  The team fell off in 1943 but that was Tojo's and Hitler's fault not Paul Brown's.  All of Ohio State's players left to go fight the war. 
  • He coached Great Lakes Navy for two seasons finishing #17 in the College AP Poll in one of them. 
Pro:
  • He coached the Cleveland Browns in the AAFC for four seasons and won the AAFC Title all four years. 
  • He coached the Cleveland Browns in the NFL for 13 seasons and won 4 NFL titles and eight conference titles. 
  • He coached the Cincinnati Bengals in the AFL for two seasons and didn't do much. 
  • He coached the Cincinnati Bengals in the NFL for six seasons and won two divisional titles. 


Brown was only 33 when Ohio State made him their HC straight from the Massillon HS job.  He was so young that he was actually drafted in WWII because he was still draft age.  Not only did he win Ohio State's first NC, he was the first Ohio State HC to get the Buckeyes to #1 in any AP Poll. 
So you are moving Ryan Day ahead of Paul Brown? 
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Re: Mt Rushmore - Head Coaches
« Reply #51 on: Today at 02:14:54 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on Today at 09:58:31 AM
Post: Name your favorite type of apple.
@Cincydawg:  Banana!

If that were a good analogy, I'd agree, that would be annoying.  

But it's not.  

It's more like:

Post:  Name your favorite type of apple.
Cincydawg:  If the apples are equal in apple-y attributes, is it warranted to bring in another category which applies to, but is not limited to, apples?  Thereby not strictly being an apple attribute?

This is still probably not warranted, since the original question was asking to weigh apple attributes.  You would just have a tie, and not worry about tie-breakers coming from non-apple categories.  It would be nonsensical, for example, to tie-break them based on which one makes a better paperweight, because it's an irrelevant category.  In your actual question, in the real world, it's unlikely two coaches are perfectly tied in multiple college coaching categories, so you'd just pick one based on the criteria you select.  

While his question goes down the wrong path, erroneous reasoning seems like a more forgiveable error than mere "jackassery."  
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