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Topic: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game

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ELA

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Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« on: September 17, 2021, 10:29:04 AM »
Michigan State Spartans (2-0) at #24 Miami Hurricanes (1-1)
NOON - Miami, FL - ABC
The Spartans have managed to look a lot better offensively by controlling the game on the ground.  For the first time, Payton Thorne might have to take the lead on some drives.  Chase Brice completed 62% of his passes against the Canes defense last week, but for under 6 yards per attempt, and under 10 yards per completion.  The Michigan State passing game has been much more vertical, so they can survive below 60% completions from Thorne, but if they fail to stretch the field, this offense is going to bog down.  The gap between Thorne and his counterpart, D'Eriq King is far more narrow than anyone would have guessed early last year.  Thorne was battling Theo Day to be Michigan State's #2 quarterback, while King was in the early Heisman discussion in 2020.  Now King is sitting #87 in the nation in QBR; while both quarterbacks ahead of Thorne on Michigan State's depth chart transferred after Thorne passed them, and Thorne ranks 6th nationally, #1 in the Big Ten in QBR.  That casts a little bit of doubt as to just how close to 100% King is after suffering a torn ACL last December.  The other fly in the ointment is Alabama.  Are all of the numbers so skewed by Bama accounting for half of that?  Or did Alabama break them?  The Canes have struggled to run the ball, averaging just 3.5 ypc, which had led to all sorts of problems in the red zone, where they have only punched the ball in twice in eight tries.  The cure for that might be a Michigan State run defense whose overall numbers look a lot better than their inability to get stops when needed.  Last week against Youngstown State, the Spartans defense got the Penguins into 3rd down 20 times.  13 times (65%), Youngstown State picked up the first down on either 3rd or 4th down.  Michigan State is getting a lot of positive press early in the year, and the offense looks good for the first time since prior to the Connor Cook injury in the middle of 2015, but it's still a Northwestern team that bad Michigan State teams beat the last two years, and an FCS team.  If Michigan State can keep up this pace on the ground, I think they can win, but against a Canes defensive line that lacks the sure fire NFL stud they had the past couple years, but can rotate 10 guys in without dropoff, I think it's a little too much to ask of Thorne.
MIAMI 30, MICHIGAN STATE 24




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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2021, 11:02:39 AM »
I've got MSU winning this one.
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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2021, 11:56:23 AM »
Hope you're right 847
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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2021, 06:05:34 PM »
I'm with Badge. I've got MSU winning this one. Miami is softer than tissue paper and has been for over a decade.

I think MSU wins convincingly honestly.
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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: September 18, 2021, 12:18:18 PM »
I certainly like the +7 line.
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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: September 18, 2021, 04:07:53 PM »
Damn - Walker what a find didn't catch much of the game but every time I peeked he seemed to pick up 7- 8 yds.Nice win Sparty
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #6 on: September 18, 2021, 04:08:03 PM »
Secondary still makes me nervous, but I'm a believer in the offense and the front seven.
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #7 on: September 19, 2021, 07:21:35 AM »
Michigan State is for real.  Sparty QB Thorne is very good.  Sparty’s defense is solid.
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Re: Michigan State (2-0) at #25 Miami (1-1) Game Week
« Reply #8 on: September 19, 2021, 12:10:41 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on September 17, 2021, 06:05:34 PM
I'm with Badge. I've got MSU winning this one. Miami is softer than tissue paper and has been for over a decade.

I think MSU wins convincingly honestly.
don't want to toot my own horn but....

Miami sucks. And MSU looks legit this year.
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #9 on: September 19, 2021, 12:24:33 PM »
just a general idea of why Miami sucks so bad...not sure I've ever seen something like this....



https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1439359110001172488?s=20
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2021, 12:30:26 PM »
Jeepers, what was that?

Congrats to Michigan State, even beating a mediocre Miami team looks good on the surface.

I think Miami is basically "done".
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2021, 12:31:59 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on September 19, 2021, 12:30:26 PM
Jeepers, what was that?

Congrats to Michigan State, even beating a mediocre Miami team looks good on the surface.

I think Miami is basically "done".
Right! WTF was that defensive back thinking lol? He's got a shot at the ball carrier then just stops and runs into a blocker- and then the defensive back who actually attempts that tackle try a little pathetic arm tackle and MSU WR busts loose for 51 yard gain. 

That is some god awful defensive football right there lol. 
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2021, 03:44:22 PM »
Um what?  Miami ran for 52 yards on 24 carries, and King was under pressure all day.  The one place Miami seemed to have an advantage was in their WRs against our DBs, and King's elusiveness.  His OL was in a bad way


https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1439999874620170241?s=20
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Re: Michigan State (1-0, 3-0) at #25 Miami (1-2) Post Game
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2021, 04:21:30 PM »
Tweet not showing up. Miami basically sucks in the trenches and that’s where the game is really won. 

They have a ton of athletes at WR/LB/DB but a lot of those guys are dumb football players. 

And if you don’t have an OL that can block for the QB he’s going to be on his back and not able to throw the ball to the WRs. 

And if you have a DL that can’t occupy blockers and split defenders those fast LBs are gonna be on their backs and not tackling ball carriers. 

And to top it off they just have awful coaching. They didn’t even try to tackle MSU offensive players that game.
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