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Topic: Maryland regents recommend reinstating Durkin, Loh fires him next day.

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ELA

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #112 on: August 20, 2018, 09:24:36 AM »
I just read an article that said Maryland will fire Durkin, his AD and the university president.

That's a lot of fire, if true.
I thought the UMd president handled the PC well.  Maybe MSU has handled their issues so poorly my standards have dropped, but I heard this morning the president rejected a recommendation to have all player medical issues governed by the unaffiliated Baltimore campus, due to concerns about the influence the athletic department had over the College Park health system.  I wonder if that is what will bring him down?

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #113 on: August 20, 2018, 09:33:18 AM »
I just read an article that said Maryland will fire Durkin, his AD and the university president.

That's a lot of fire, if true.
Maybe the same scenario unfolds in C-Bus,would be a welcomed relief actually
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #114 on: August 20, 2018, 10:19:44 AM »
I just read an article that said Maryland will fire Durkin, his AD and the university president.

That's a lot of fire, if true.
Didn't know there was an article, but Chick Hernandez tweeted that, and he's well connected. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #115 on: August 22, 2018, 11:21:21 AM »
President as well as the AD and coach?   Seems like a PR move.... BUT...  they might have more details. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #116 on: August 24, 2018, 11:22:56 AM »
Not a good look here:


Former Maryland AD defended players with school funds in a sexual misconduct case


https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/former-maryland-ad-defended-players-with-school-funds-in-a-sexual-misconduct-case/
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #117 on: August 24, 2018, 11:35:04 AM »
You'd think the BIG would be learning from the SEC and allow boosters to do these things..

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #118 on: August 24, 2018, 11:42:14 AM »
Muschamp can be unhinged at times.  I saw it when he was DC going after a referee and having to be restrained.  I would never hire him because of his temper.  He also thinks in general that training camps should be hyperintense and I would guess his players don't like him, not that they have to of course, but because the culture is negative.

USCe might be the same as UMd in this respect, or close, or worse.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #119 on: August 24, 2018, 12:24:54 PM »
Not a good look here:


Former Maryland AD defended players with school funds in a sexual misconduct case
this also occurred at Baylor?
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #120 on: August 24, 2018, 01:34:09 PM »
Muschamp can be unhinged at times.  I saw it when he was DC going after a referee and having to be restrained.  I would never hire him because of his temper.  He also thinks in general that training camps should be hyperintense and I would guess his players don't like him, not that they have to of course, but because the culture is negative.

USCe might be the same as UMd in this respect, or close, or worse.
What?!?
Why commit? Why not transfer? Why transfer in? Why come back for a 5th season? 
I don't get the comparison, because the players and parents are still behind Durkin.

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #121 on: October 24, 2018, 12:59:12 AM »
It seems the Maryland investigative report is circulated to the Regents, but not Dr. Loh. Dr. Loh's handling of this made him almost an icon of what you should do under these circumstances, but others in the State of Maryland did not think so because he admitted "legal and moral responsibility." (I have seen defense attorneys in civil litigation admit legal liability in an effort I think to curry favor with a jury - depends on the case, and it takes a big man). This from ESPN:

"Loh's future as university leader seems unknown. Sources said his decision to publicly accept "legal and moral responsibility" for mistakes made on May 29 upset high-ranking state officials. Loh also could face repercussions for his decision not to accept a proposal in 2017 that would have made athletic trainers completely autonomous from the athletic department in their reporting responsibilities, and for his lack of a response to a letter delivered by a Maryland football parent in 2016 -- reported by The Washington Post in late September -- alleging abuse in Durkin's program." http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25056412/latest-maryland-football-investigation

Read the above article, and one could easily conclude Durkin will not survive at Maryland, but the statements in the parent letter to Dr. Loh while using dramatic language are entirely conclusory without detailed statements of what caused the parent to draw such conclusions. Maybe it warranted a phone conference with the football coach about "I have this letter, what is going on?" https://www.fredericknewspost.com/sports/level/collegiate/motivation-or-abuse-new-allegations-emerge-from-maryland-football-program/article_11725f91-dedb-5dc3-bdc5-b84eb4a95c01.html Without factual allegations I don't know what else you do. 

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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #122 on: October 24, 2018, 08:23:57 AM »
It seems the Maryland investigative report is circulated to the Regents, but not Dr. Loh. Dr. Loh's handling of this made him almost an icon of what you should do under these circumstances, but others in the State of Maryland did not think so because he admitted "legal and moral responsibility." (I have seen defense attorneys in civil litigation admit legal liability in an effort I think to curry favor with a jury - depends on the case, and it takes a big man). This from ESPN:

"Loh's future as university leader seems unknown. Sources said his decision to publicly accept "legal and moral responsibility" for mistakes made on May 29 upset high-ranking state officials. Loh also could face repercussions for his decision not to accept a proposal in 2017 that would have made athletic trainers completely autonomous from the athletic department in their reporting responsibilities, and for his lack of a response to a letter delivered by a Maryland football parent in 2016 -- reported by The Washington Post in late September -- alleging abuse in Durkin's program." http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/25056412/latest-maryland-football-investigation

Read the above article, and one could easily conclude Durkin will not survive at Maryland, but the statements in the parent letter to Dr. Loh while using dramatic language are entirely conclusory without detailed statements of what caused the parent to draw such conclusions. Maybe it warranted a phone conference with the football coach about "I have this letter, what is going on?" https://www.fredericknewspost.com/sports/level/collegiate/motivation-or-abuse-new-allegations-emerge-from-maryland-football-program/article_11725f91-dedb-5dc3-bdc5-b84eb4a95c01.html Without factual allegations I don't know what else you do.
 Hawk, this post doesn't really address all the issues people in the Maryland community have with Dr. Loh and how he's handled this horrible mess.  Yes, many think it was unwise to admit liability on August 10, but the bungling started long before then, and he was in charge of this from day 1. 
His performance in that press conference went over well across the country, but didn't come across as genuine in the Maryland community.  I'll leave it at that. 


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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #123 on: October 24, 2018, 09:39:42 AM »
I haven't been following this very closely.   Did Durkin's suspension come about as a result of a complaint by a parent?   And what is "toxic football culture?"  At first pass I thought that sounded like BS and what was needed was an Rx for tough pills.   I'm beginning to suspected that this issue may have been raised by the University President as a knee jerk reaction and to deflect from the tragic death of the student athlete.  But again, I haven't been paying attention.
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Re: Maryland said to have toxic football culture - ESPN
« Reply #124 on: October 24, 2018, 11:04:26 AM »
I haven't been following this very closely.   Did Durkin's suspension come about as a result of a complaint by a parent?   And what is "toxic football culture?"  At first pass I thought that sounded like BS and what was needed was an Rx for tough pills.   I'm beginning to suspected that this issue may have been raised by the University President as a knee jerk reaction and to deflect from the tragic death of the student athlete.  But again, I haven't been paying attention.
I believe I've mentioned it several times in this thread.
Toxic culture story comes from Heather Dinich, who has a history with Maryland, and the lawyer who is representing Jordan McNair's parents.  The same lawyer who represented Freddie Gray.  He went straight to her.
The goal is to destroy public opinion first, then destroy them in the courtroom.
Again, Damian Prince and Derwin Gray came back for their senior seasons, and based that decision off of what they thought DJ Durkin could do with this team.
Many of the players tweeted not to believe what you read the day the article came out.
Other players like Shane Cockerille, who said he wasn't a model student or football player, still gave credit to Durkin and said it was nowhere near what was being said. Perry Hills said the same thing.
But apparently there are disgruntled players out there and a coach or two, one of which is presumably now at Penn State, who claimed they were too mean to the players.
Now, I know recruiting is a dirty business, but this may be one of the slimiest things I've ever seen.


 

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