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Topic: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101

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GopherRock

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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #14 on: November 25, 2023, 08:36:56 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 25, 2023, 07:42:11 AM
In my experience, Maintenance of Traffic is one of the most challenging aspects of roadway design and construction.
Indeed. On top of that, staging during road construction is one of the least quantifiable things in the business. It's far more of an art than a science, especially in constrained areas under high volume.

During the recent reconstruction of I-35W south of downtown Minneapolis, the staging plan over 5 years of construction was almost as big as the construction plan.

There's a reason why contractors usually set up their own batch plants on concrete paving projects: sheer volume. 1 cubic yard of concrete advances a 28-foot slip former a little more than a foot, depending on the thickness of the slab. Add in that a road paving crew can put down almost a mile a day, and most commercial plants can't deliver that much concrete that fast.
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2023, 08:46:16 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on November 25, 2023, 08:14:30 AM
Damn Uncle Billy wasn't dicking around they're still rebuilding
Atlanta has been infamous for tearing down buildings of historical significance.  That changed a bit when the Fox Theater was saved.  Southern Bell wanted it for a parking lot.  And of course like many cities it's famous for adding lanes to interstates and then wondering why the traffic was only better for a month.

The longest bridge in the state today is for a toll road running parallel to I-75 NW of ATL.

Meanwhile, all the monies for freeways can't be used to expand rapid transit.



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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #16 on: November 25, 2023, 08:47:01 AM »
This concrete thing is pretty amazing.
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« Reply #17 on: November 25, 2023, 08:59:45 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2023, 08:46:16 AM
Atlanta has been infamous for tearing down buildings of historical significance.  That changed a bit when the Fox Theater was saved. 
Skynyrd's "One More for the Road" Album was recorded there in '76.Not the ABB "Live at the Fillmore East" but damn close
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« Reply #18 on: November 25, 2023, 09:06:21 AM »
Quote from: GopherRock on November 25, 2023, 08:36:56 AM
Indeed. On top of that, staging during road construction is one of the least quantifiable things in the business. It's far more of an art than a science, especially in constrained areas under high volume.

During the recent reconstruction of I-35W south of downtown Minneapolis, the staging plan over 5 years of construction was almost as big as the construction plan.

There's a reason why contractors usually set up their own batch plants on concrete paving projects: sheer volume. 1 cubic yard of concrete advances a 28-foot slip former a little more than a foot, depending on the thickness of the slab. Add in that a road paving crew can put down almost a mile a day, and most commercial plants can't deliver that much concrete that fast.
I was hoping you would weigh in. You @GopherRock  are a lot more in tune with the DOT stuff than I am. My last resident engineer project was in 1996. Things have changed since then, drastically, including the on-site batch plants. Didn't see much of that in my time.
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #19 on: November 25, 2023, 09:09:25 AM »
I see a lot of concrete forms being brought in for bridges now too.
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« Reply #20 on: November 25, 2023, 09:19:23 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 25, 2023, 07:03:43 AM
I've always loved maps.

Any thoughts on the conference the above map yielded?
You love conference maps, you say?

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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #21 on: November 25, 2023, 09:20:55 AM »
Another conference "fictional notion" would be to lump city schools in one batch.

Pitt
Cincy
Laville
Memphis
Houston
Syracuse
BC
Boise
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« Reply #22 on: November 25, 2023, 09:23:21 AM »
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #23 on: November 25, 2023, 09:23:48 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2023, 09:20:55 AM
Another conference "fictional notion" would be to lump city schools in one batch.

Pitt
Cincy
Laville
Memphis
Houston
Syracuse
BC
Boise
Northwestern, UCLA, USC, Washington, Miami, TCU.
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« Reply #24 on: November 25, 2023, 09:24:24 AM »
Quote from: utee94 on November 25, 2023, 09:19:23 AM
You love conference maps, you say?


Not that one. It's a dickhead move.
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #25 on: November 25, 2023, 09:27:47 AM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on November 25, 2023, 09:09:25 AM
I see a lot of concrete forms being brought in for bridges now too.
Indeed. Slip-forming elements of the deck is fairly commonplace. The gantry they use to do the initial deck pour is known by the manufacturer that I can't remember offhand. The overlay is all by hand, though. The mud used for that is really hot stuff and needs to be placed immediately on mixing. 

Most level slip formers are built in @FearlessF  's neck of the woods, Ida Grove, Iowa. 

Some contractors have stringless concrete pavers  that run off total stations, benchmarks, and a computer profile. One company out of NE Iowa paved ~15 miles of I-90 east of Rochester a few years ago, and used their stringless paver. I watched it for a while in action, and I was amazed at the technology. 
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #26 on: November 25, 2023, 09:46:41 AM »
Ida Grove
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Re: M.I.M.A.L. - Geography 101
« Reply #27 on: November 25, 2023, 10:10:50 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on November 24, 2023, 04:56:00 PM
Remember grade school geography? This was part of the teaching in my early days.

M.I.M.A.L. is:

[img width=160.137 height=499.994]https://i.imgur.com/orneyrK.png[/img]

Minnesota, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas and Louisiana.

Take those 5 states alone.

Minnesota
Iowa
Iowa State
Missouri
LSU

Add in states to the West of M.I.M.A.L. and you get

Nebraska
Kansas
KSU
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Texas
Texas A&M



Not a bad 12 team conference at all.
Did anybody else notice that you did not include Arkansas in your 12 team conference?  You may want to consider expanding to 15 schools and add Arkansas, NDSU, SDSU
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