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Topic: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)

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Mdot21

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #210 on: October 29, 2023, 07:16:33 PM »
I don't think McCord is that bad. He just isn't to the level that OSU has been accustomed to under Day. They went on a pretty high level run from Haskins to Fields to Stroud- who imo was the best of them all. Bama went on a great run with QBs as well. Now they have Milroe. 

Hard to have elite QBs every single year.

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #211 on: October 29, 2023, 07:24:14 PM »
it's even harder in the west
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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #212 on: October 29, 2023, 08:01:58 PM »
I don't think McCord is that bad. He just isn't to the level that OSU has been accustomed to under Day. They went on a pretty high level run from Haskins to Fields to Stroud- who imo was the best of them all. Bama went on a great run with QBs as well. Now they have Milroe.

Hard to have elite QBs every single year.
Exactly and I'll add this:

IMHO, the main difference between McCord and recent prior tOSU QB's is consistency. McCord can be great but he can also play like he did in Camp Randall, or worse. 

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #213 on: October 29, 2023, 08:50:50 PM »
I don't think McCord is that bad. He just isn't to the level that OSU has been accustomed to under Day. They went on a pretty high level run from Haskins to Fields to Stroud- who imo was the best of them all. Bama went on a great run with QBs as well. Now they have Milroe.

Hard to have elite QBs every single year.
This.
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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #214 on: October 29, 2023, 10:20:02 PM »
McCord always takes a long time to get going, but he is clutch down the stretch when the game is on the line. 

He finished 13/15. 
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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #215 on: October 30, 2023, 08:04:41 AM »
Seriously??


Well that, AND every single other metric.  Talent.  Coaching.  Facilities.  SOS. 

All of that, plus getting run off the field, is called TOTAL evidence.  Every single data point is evidence against an Air Force navigating a shit schedule for a pseudo-chance at the national championship. 

That they had a chance before was a lie and it's an even bigger lie now.  65-7. 
I am seriously rolling my eyes at this little fit. Yes.

is anyone actually asking for Air Force to go? It seems like everyone feels good with the decent number of contenders at the moment.

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #216 on: October 30, 2023, 08:06:52 AM »
I am seriously rolling my eyes at this little fit. Yes.

is anyone actually asking for Air Force to go? It seems like everyone feels good with the decent number of contenders at the moment.
Ban the SEC from the playoffs. 62-24

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #217 on: October 30, 2023, 08:10:06 AM »
is anyone actually asking for Air Force to go? It seems like everyone feels good with the decent number of contenders at the moment.
Not this year, but next year, yes.

The top SIX ranked conference champions would get a slot.  Top SIX, as it stands now.

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #218 on: October 30, 2023, 09:06:17 AM »
next year Cinderella doesn't really have a shot, but upsets are fun to root for and it will make $$$$

also gives Michigan too many possibilities to scout
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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #219 on: October 30, 2023, 04:32:26 PM »
According to DraftKings Sportsbook, Nebraska is 3-point favorite over Michigan State. The OU is 34.5. We are approaching Iowa territory.

Big Ten Teams In Week 10
Penn State is favored by 10.5 over- Maryland. The OU is 50.
Wisconsin is favored by 9.5 over Indiana. The OU is 44.5. At some point, Tom Allen has to get fired.
Ohio State - Rutgers - No line.
Iowa is favored by 4.5 over Northwestern. The OU is 31. EGAD!
Illinois is a 2.5-point UNDERDOG to Minnesota. The OU is 41.5.
Purdue is a 32-point UNDERDOG to Michigan. The OU is 48.5. 
Other Games
Texas is a 4-point favorite over Kansas State. The OU is 51.5. 
Ole Miss is a 3.5-point favorite over Texas A&M. The OU is 63.5. 
Notre Dame is favored by 2.5 points over Clemson. The OU is 45.5
Oklahoma is favored by only 6 points over Oklahoma State. The OU is 62. 
Washington is only favored by 3.5 over USC. The OU is 76.5. This sounds weird to me. The spread, not the OU.
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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #220 on: October 30, 2023, 08:02:31 PM »
might be a bit of a hot take here but imo Marv is the best WR in the B1G since probably Charles Rogers or Braylon. 

He’s just an obvious top 3 NFL draft pick and Pro Bowl player. OSU has put out some dudes lately- but Marv is the best and it’s just like ok…duh…that’s what an NFL receiver looks like from a height/size, speed, strength, body control, hands aspect. A prototype.

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #221 on: October 31, 2023, 02:11:56 PM »

Wisconsin is favored by 9.5 over Indiana. The OU is 44.5. At some point, Tom Allen has to get fired.

Allen's buyout is $20 million. The university hasn't demonstrated the financial and institutional commitment necessary to make IU football even moderately competent on a regular basis. There's no way they'll cough up $20 million to do it this year. It doesn't matter anyway. They could hire prime Nick Saban and they'd still be the worst program in the Big Ten because the university braintrust doesn't understand the importance of football. They either refuse to provide the infrastructure and budget for football relevance, don't understand what that is, or both. 

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #222 on: October 31, 2023, 03:18:27 PM »

Allen's buyout is $20 million. The university hasn't demonstrated the financial and institutional commitment necessary to make IU football even moderately competent on a regular basis. There's no way they'll cough up $20 million to do it this year. It doesn't matter anyway. They could hire prime Nick Saban and they'd still be the worst program in the Big Ten because the university braintrust doesn't understand the importance of football. They either refuse to provide the infrastructure and budget for football relevance, don't understand what that is, or both.
It's not a matter of infrastructure or budget. You're Indiana. You're never going to compete, even with money. We're Purdue. Neither are we. It's one of the reasons I don't pay attention any longer. I've lost interest in the rigged game.

Fundamentally Indiana isn't a shiny enough helmet to recruit at a level much better than they currently do. They're in a moderately-populous state with three in-state major programs (and one G5). One of those in-state programs is a legitimate helmet, with two others in neighboring states.

Playing the arms race to get to parity with a school like Purdue or Illinois or Minnesota will result in a program achieving less than those schools due to the recruiting hangover of being the Big Ten's historically weakest program. 

In order to get to "moderately competent" I would argue you must out-spend those programs by a significant level to overcome the recruiting disadvantages, NIL, transfer portal, etc. 

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Re: Luke Fickell Shouts To His Ancestors (SOC 10/28/23)
« Reply #223 on: October 31, 2023, 03:22:02 PM »
Be nice to keep things like they were around 2000 or so,smaller programs still had a punchers chance
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