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Topic: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?

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Mdot21

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Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« on: December 09, 2020, 12:43:27 AM »
Of the two, who will be the better head coach if they were to land at a helmet team like say Florida State or Texas or Michigan. 
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2020, 07:38:23 AM »
I've been surprised by Fickell.  He's been better than I anticipated.  The last couple years they've been good, but their record was probably better than their team.  But this year they are flat out good.  
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 07:54:24 AM »
Campbell is Harbaugh; he'll get you ten wins, but he won't beat your rival or win you a conference title. So I'd take a flyer on Fickell.
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 08:15:11 AM »
Probably Fickell. Maybe neither.
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 08:17:46 AM »
Lance Leipold. 
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2020, 08:21:04 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on December 09, 2020, 08:17:46 AM
Lance Leipold.
I'm a believer.  The bigwigs don't seem to want him but I thought Sparty should have gone all in.  Not sure how long Illinois will roll with Lovie but they could be a spot too.
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2020, 08:23:32 AM »
Of the two, I'd take Fickell. That said, I'm not sure either coach is interested in coaching outside the Midwest.

I think Campbell is a very solid coach, but he's found success by playing defense in a conference that doesn't. I don't think he'd elevate a program to the top of a defensive-minded conference.
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2020, 08:26:48 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on December 09, 2020, 07:54:24 AM
Campbell is Harbaugh; he'll get you ten wins, but he won't beat your rival or win you a conference title. So I'd take a flyer on Fickell.
So Campbell has your party pictures and you're rather pithy about it but that's just like your opinion,man and not a very professional one
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2020, 08:36:23 AM »
Harbaugh not going anywhere.  

But, if you want solid recruiting, solid player development, a consistent identity on offense and defense, a team that plays hard every week, and a team that rarely beats itself, there are many choices better than the existing head coach.  
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2020, 08:37:49 AM »
I can see Campbell inquiring about FSU/UM not sure about UT as they're in the same conference.His stock may never be higher so if he has a hankering to move now may be the time as these are all Bluebloods.Same for Fickell As IH 15 said they both might like be comfortable where they are at
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2020, 08:40:25 AM »
Quote from: Honestbuckeye on December 09, 2020, 08:36:23 AM
Harbaugh not going anywhere. 
IMO he's not,as the situation is like Texas - big buy out and not a slam dunk hire out there
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2020, 08:41:34 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 09, 2020, 08:37:49 AM
I can see Campbell inquiring about FSU/UM not sure about UT as they're in the same conference.His stock may never be higher so if he has a hankering to move now may be the time as these are all Bluebloods.Same for Fickell As IH 15 said they both might like be comfortable where they are at
Campbell supposedly turned down FSU last year. I agree that he wouldn't move within the conference. The only three jobs I feel confident he'd take are Ohio State, Notre Dame, and Michigan.
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2020, 09:13:16 AM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on December 09, 2020, 08:40:25 AM
IMO he's not,as the situation is like Texas - big buy out and not a slam dunk hire out there
Big buyout? Tom has one of those. Jim doesn’t. 
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Re: Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell...who ya got?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2020, 09:43:09 AM »
I'm not sure how I feel about Fickell.  I loved him as a player and as an assistant at tOSU and he is doing amazing things with the Bearcats but his interim HC year in Columbus was an unmitigated disaster.  He took a team that went 12-1 under Tressel the year before (only loss on the road to a very good UW team) and 12-0 the next year under Meyer and he went 6-7 with them. 

So the question is:
Did he suck as HC in Columbus because he just wasn't quite ready or because being HC at a major helmet program is just not his thing?  

That is the risk TX, FSU, or M would be taking by hiring him.  If it was just because he wasn't quite ready then it looks like he IS ready now and he'd be a great hire.  If it was because being a HC at a major helmet program is just not his thing then whoever hires him will be looking for a new HC again in a few years.  
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