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OrangeAfroMan

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List of slighted teams
« on: November 15, 2022, 10:18:57 PM »
Post any and all teams you feel got slighted.
I don't feel an undefeated G5 being passed over for a 1-loss P5 qualifies, sorry. 
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Some examples:
2004 Auburn (undefeated, but behind USC and OU)
2011 Oklahoma State (1-loss, passed over for 1-loss Alabama's rematch with LSU)
2007 Kansas (1-loss, ranked behind six different 2-loss teams, in the season of crazy)
2008 Texas (ranked behind OU, despite having h2h, in 3-way tie for XII South)
2003 USC (ranked #1 by AP, left out of BCSCG)
2000 Miami (ranked behind FSU, despite having won h2h)
1994 Penn St (undefeated season, no split NC)
1993 West Virginia (2004 Auburn situation)
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A lot of teams that were on probation could have a gripe (12 OSU, 93 Auburn, 84 Florida, etc), but since they were on probation, the voters punished them and ho-hum.  That's how it goes.
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1992 Texas A&M (undefeated regular season, ignored)
1987 Syracuse (same as 92 A&M)
1983 Auburn (ranked 3rd going into bowls, 1 & 2 lost, but didn't win the NC)
1982 SMU (left out due to a tie, fell behind teams with a loss)
1977 Alabama (see 83 Auburn)
1976 Maryland (undefeated regular season, ranked behind two 1-loss teams, no chance at NC)
1966 Alabama (won previous 2 NCs, ranked 3rd despite going undefeated)
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I'm sure there's more, but which ones did I miss??
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2022, 10:43:55 PM »
Those early 90’s A&M teams are somewhat of a mystery for me. 

I don’t know much about CFB from that era except that the SWC was considered weak at the time. We had an undefeated season, and as I recall lost a close game to FSU in the cotton bowl on a cold day. By a score of like 10-2. There is some woebegone stories of maybe an int or some such where they inexplicably fumbled just before crossing the goal line, which would have given us the win. 

We played some really good ball from the mid 80’s thru about the mid 90’s. And really haven’t done shit since, sadly. 

1994 we were undefeated but were on probation for basically the same thing Rhett Bomar did at OU but whatever. 
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2022, 10:45:11 PM »
Didn’t 2003 USC get a split title?  
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2022, 11:08:42 PM »
Quote from: Gigem on November 15, 2022, 10:45:11 PM
Didn’t 2003 USC get a split title? 
Yes, but if you're ranked #1 by one poll and not in the top 2 of the other, you don't even get a shot at the full NC.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2022, 11:59:32 PM »
1944 OSU went undefeated the same year as Army, during the height of WWII patriotism. 
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2022, 01:58:36 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on November 15, 2022, 11:59:32 PM
1944 OSU went undefeated the same year as Army, during the height of WWII patriotism.
Did they beat teams 56-4?
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2022, 05:19:18 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 15, 2022, 10:18:57 PM
Post any and all teams you feel got slighted.
I don't feel an undefeated G5 being passed over for a 1-loss P5 qualifies, sorry. 
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Some examples:
2008 Texas (ranked behind OU, despite having h2h, in 3-way tie for XII South)
2000 Miami (ranked behind FSU, despite having won h2h)
Using h2h as a criteria is a funny thing in college football.

If you are going to list 2008 10-1 Texas, then you also have to list 2008 10-1 Texas Tech, ranked behind Texas despite have beat Texas h2h in a 3-way tie for first in the Big 12 south.

If you are going to list 2000 11-1 Miami, you have to also list 2000 11-1 Washington, who beat Miami h2h.  I have always found it bizarre that so many people argue that Miami was screwed out of a national championship in 2000 because they won h2h against FSU while blatantly ignoring the fact that Miami lost h2h to 11-1 Washington.

But the classic h2h slight has to be 1993 11-1 Notre Dame, who finished behind 1993 11-1 FSU, despite beating FSU h2h.  The funny thing is in 1989, when 11-1 Miami was voted ahead of 11-1 Notre Dame, the primary reason given was Miami's h2h victory over Notre Dame.  Needless to say Lou Holtz was very confused in 1993.

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2022, 05:35:48 AM »
Speaking of h2h, there are also famous controversies when the 2 teams tied.

In 1966, Notre Dame and Michigan State tied, but Notre Dame was voted nation Champion over MSU.

In 1973, Michigan and Ohio State tied and both teams finished the regular season  tied for first in the Big Ten at 10-0-1.  At the time there was a rule that only 1 Big Ten team would go to a bowl each year, the Rose Bowl.  Also there was a guideline that when 2 teams tied for the Big Ten title, the last team to play in the Rose Bowl gets to go.  So by rule, Michigan should have gone to the Rose Bowl since OSU went the year before.  But instead the Big Ten decided to have each university vote on it, and OSU won the vote and got to go to the Rose Bowl for the 2nd year in a row, and Michigan stayed home.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2022, 06:34:41 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2022, 01:58:36 AM
Did they beat teams 56-4?
Did anyone on your list meet this unusual requirement?

Literally the first team that you mentioned went undefeated, but didn't have the style points of the other two undefeated teams, with 2004 Auburn. 

Troll thread.
« Last Edit: November 16, 2022, 08:05:02 AM by Brutus Buckeye »
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2022, 06:54:20 AM »
1946 UGA, 11-0 but ranked behind two teams with a tie at 9-0-1.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2022, 07:46:39 AM »
great off-seaon topic
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2022, 08:55:45 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 16, 2022, 05:35:48 AM

In 1973, Michigan and Ohio State tied and both teams finished the regular season  tied for first in the Big Ten at 10-0-1.  At the time there was a rule that only 1 Big Ten team would go to a bowl each year, the Rose Bowl.  Also there was a guideline that when 2 teams tied for the Big Ten title, the last team to play in the Rose Bowl gets to go.  So by rule, Michigan should have gone to the Rose Bowl since OSU went the year before.  But instead the Big Ten decided to have each university vote on it, and OSU won the vote and got to go to the Rose Bowl for the 2nd year in a row, and Michigan stayed home.

becasue *ichigan still sucks.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2022, 09:23:19 AM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on November 16, 2022, 01:58:36 AM
Did they beat teams 56-4?
the OSU beat 4 ranked teams(UW,Great Lakes Navy,Indiana,Michigan) not two (Notre Dame,Navy).But most teams had their rosters gutted because the WWII
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2022, 09:34:42 AM »
Quote from: LittlePig on November 16, 2022, 05:35:48 AM
Speaking of h2h, there are also famous controversies when the 2 teams tied.

In 1966, Notre Dame and Michigan State tied, but Notre Dame was voted nation Champion over MSU.

In 1973, Michigan and Ohio State tied and both teams finished the regular season  tied for first in the Big Ten at 10-0-1.  At the time there was a rule that only 1 Big Ten team would go to a bowl each year, the Rose Bowl.  Also there was a guideline that when 2 teams tied for the Big Ten title, the last team to play in the Rose Bowl gets to go.  So by rule, Michigan should have gone to the Rose Bowl since OSU went the year before.  But instead the Big Ten decided to have each university vote on it, and OSU won the vote and got to go to the Rose Bowl for the 2nd year in a row, and Michigan stayed home.
The rule about back to back Rose Bowls had already been changed before the season started.
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