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longhorn320

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2022, 12:25:50 PM »
I don't like a 12 team playoff, and having it doesn't mean a team can't get slighted.  I could abide a six team playoff, I just view 12 as WAY too many.


eight team playoff with p5 conference champs plus 3 at large
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2022, 12:30:54 PM »
eight team playoff with p5 conference champs plus 3 at large
It's not gonna be P5 much longer. The SEC and B1G are going to crush the others.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2022, 12:33:43 PM »
Big 12 and PAC are doomed
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2022, 12:38:45 PM »
Big 12 and PAC are doomed
ACC too, when the SEC and B1G get done with it.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #32 on: November 16, 2022, 05:13:07 PM »
so, it didn't happen in 72?
the b1g had few different rules.

1st - a team could not go to the rose bowl 2 times in a row. this ended for the 1972 season (1973 rose bowl). that's how osu played in 4 consecutive from the '73-'76 rose bowls (72-75 seasons).

2nd - only 1 team could go bowling. and with the rose bowl tie-in, meant they could only go to the rose. this ended in 1975, mainly because mich had been screwed from the prior rule change above. they had great seasons all 4 years after that rule change, but couldn't go bowling cause osu got rose bid and only 1 could go bowling. they went 10-1, 10-0-1, 10-1, and 10-1 from 1972-1974, but couldn't go bowling.

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #33 on: November 16, 2022, 05:15:45 PM »
mich had been screwed from the prior rule change above. they had great seasons all 4 years after that rule change, but couldn't go bowling cause osu got rose bid and only 1 could go bowling. they went 10-1, 10-0-1, 10-1, and 10-1 from 1972-1974, but couldn't go bowling.

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #34 on: November 16, 2022, 05:22:34 PM »

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #35 on: November 16, 2022, 05:29:20 PM »
so, it didn't happen in 72?
In 1972 Big Ten allowed a team to go to the Rose Bowl in consecutive years
In 1975 Big Ten allowed other teams to go to other bowl games. 

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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2022, 07:16:40 PM »
Using h2h as a criteria is a funny thing in college football.

If you are going to list 2008 10-1 Texas, then you also have to list 2008 10-1 Texas Tech, ranked behind Texas despite have beat Texas h2h in a 3-way tie for first in the Big 12 south.

If you are going to list 2000 11-1 Miami, you have to also list 2000 11-1 Washington, who beat Miami h2h.  I have always found it bizarre that so many people argue that Miami was screwed out of a national championship in 2000 because they won h2h against FSU while blatantly ignoring the fact that Miami lost h2h to 11-1 Washington.

But the classic h2h slight has to be 1993 11-1 Notre Dame, who finished behind 1993 11-1 FSU, despite beating FSU h2h.  The funny thing is in 1989, when 11-1 Miami was voted ahead of 11-1 Notre Dame, the primary reason given was Miami's h2h victory over Notre Dame.  Needless to say Lou Holtz was very confused in 1993.


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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2022, 07:19:17 PM »
the OSU beat 4 ranked teams(UW,Great Lakes Navy,Indiana,Michigan) not two (Notre Dame,Navy).But most teams had their rosters gutted because the WWII
Yeah, wartime sports is wonky.
Army was already a powerhouse and during WWII, they added the best players from a few other schools to boot.  So while OSU or any other number of teams had great seasons in '44 and '45, they couldn't measure up to Army.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2022, 07:38:56 PM »
I seriously don't understand, especially after reading this thread, why so many are opposed to playoff expansion.  All of these teams seems like they were just randomly screwed out of something akin to a beauty pagent process.  Everybody votes their favorite. 

I really had no idea of all these old time controversies, only the ones from the last 25 or so years. 
The most egregious one is probably '66 Alabama, as it was likely a "southern racism" thing.  I'm not sure how much strength of schedule matters when you allow 4 points per game, lol.  They shut out 6 teams and only 2 scored more than 7 points, of which #6 Nebraska wasn't one (Sugar Bowl).
The ND-MSU game is still so famous as a "Game of the Century" 1 v 2 matchup that most people don't realize MSU's vaunted defense was much better in 1965.  ND actually had the killer D in '66. 
Looking at the week-by-week rankings will just make you think all the voters were stupid and random (some things never change).  Alabama fell from #1 to #3 before playing a game, and MSU bypassed them with an unremarkable win over an unremarkable team. 
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Personally, I'm sympathetic to 83 Auburn.  #1 loses bowl, #2 loses bowl, Auburn's 3rd and win their bowl over #8.  Remain 3rd. 
What the fuk? 
Not only that, but here's their exact schedule to close out the regular season, while themselves are ranked 4th, then 3rd:
W vs #5 Florida
W vs #7 Maryland
W @ #4 Georgia
W v #19 Alabama
Then the bowl win over #8 Michigan.
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Final ranking:  3rd.
If I was the HC of that team, I would have quit football altogether.
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Re: List of slighted teams
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2022, 07:42:32 PM »
Facts don't care about my feelings. 
Idk man.....at least cross the 50, right?  I mean shit.  
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