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betarhoalphadelta

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #224 on: August 03, 2021, 02:24:31 PM »
Okay, one problem with a scheduling agreement--too many teams have OOC slates inked too many years in advance. So if something like this is announced, it would take too long to take effect at which point neither conference really benefits. 

So here's my proposal:


  • Both the B1G and PAC currently maintain a 9-game conference schedule. 
  • Each conference should revert back to an 8-game conference schedule.
  • The teams will be mandated by the conference to a matchup (selected by the conferences together) against the other conference each year. It will be structured like the B1G/ACC challenge such that teams alternate home and away games each year.
  • Since the conferences are unequal in number, there will be two extra teams from the B1G each year, which will rotate.
  • The B1G will mandate that all schools must schedule 10 P5 opponents each season, so those B1G teams which are not included in the PAC challenge are not given a scheduling advantage by being granted a paycheck game against an inferior opponent. If they do not have a PAC game, they will need to schedule two P5 OOC that year.
  • Given that both the B1G and the PAC have Fox tie-ins for media rights, I'm sure they can work out the revenue sharing/etc between them such that the networks are still happy despite dropping to 8 conference games.

We're too close to the season to do this for 2021, but I'll bet they could have it in place for 2022. 

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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #225 on: August 03, 2021, 02:33:37 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2021, 01:53:49 PM
It'd be nice if there were a suitable (UT or aTm) Texas school available.

The only AAU in Florida is UF and they aren't going anywhere.

The only AAU in Georgia is GT, and meh, sans the Atlanta market.

Rice could probably be poached...
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« Reply #226 on: August 03, 2021, 02:37:30 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on August 03, 2021, 02:33:37 PM
Rice could probably be poached...
I prefer my Rice fried.
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #227 on: August 03, 2021, 02:40:47 PM »
What People Know: UGA & AAU
What People Know: UGA & AAU

Emory is an AAU university in the state, but no football of course.

Tech technically is part of the UGA system.

I attended UNC of course and never heard anything at all about the AAU there.  Perhaps it was mentioned and didn't resonate, I did visit when I was making up my mind where to attend, along with Princeton.
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« Reply #228 on: August 03, 2021, 02:43:52 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 03, 2021, 02:37:30 PM
I prefer my Rice fried.
Quote from: Cincydawg on August 03, 2021, 02:40:47 PM
What People Know: UGA & AAU
What People Know: UGA & AAU

Emory is an AAU university in the state, but no football of course.

Tech technically is part of the UGA system.

I attended UNC of course and never heard anything at all about the AAU there.  Perhaps it was mentioned and didn't resonate, I did visit when I was making up my mind where to attend, along with Princeton.
UNC didn't become AAU until 1922.
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #229 on: August 03, 2021, 03:11:24 PM »
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« Reply #230 on: August 03, 2021, 03:35:53 PM »


So the Big Ten needs to "keep up with the SEC" by matching each "Helmet" that the SEC adds with a member of the AAU? 

How exactly does that keep the Big Ten up with the SEC? 

What's the point of considering anything other than a USC/ND home run? Just to widen the Academic/Athletic chasm between the Big Ten and SEC from both ends, instead of just one? 

That said, they are SO gonna add Kansas and Iowa State, with "AAU" as the reasoning. The SEC will point and laugh, and then maybe add FSU and Clemson just to rub our noses in it. 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #231 on: August 03, 2021, 03:56:36 PM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on August 03, 2021, 03:35:53 PM

So the Big Ten needs to "keep up with the SEC" by matching each "Helmet" that the SEC adds with a member of the AAU?

How exactly does that keep the Big Ten up with the SEC?

What's the point of considering anything other than a USC/ND home run? Just to widen the Academic/Athletic chasm between the Big Ten and SEC from both ends, instead of just one?

That said, they are SO gonna add Kansas and Iowa State, with "AAU" as the reasoning. The SEC will point and laugh, and then maybe add FSU and Clemson just to rub our noses in it.
It is my opinion that the B1G should not cheapen ourselves in order to keep up with the SEC at all costs. 

Now, that doesn't mean that we should just take any AAU school that wants to join. We should only admit schools that align with our academic AND athletic standards.

UNC / UVA would do that. Taking the collection of schools mentioned from the PAC (USC/UCLA/Stan/Ore/Wash/Colo) would do that. 

Kansas is borderline. I could see them as part of a package, for example if we were going to 18 or 20 and needed one additional school to fill it out, they might be ok. But I've soured on them as any sort of a "Plan A". 

Iowa State should not be a part of this conference under any circumstances.
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« Reply #232 on: August 03, 2021, 04:12:23 PM »
I just think that they are more likely to "do the right thing" and throw the AAU Big 12ers a lifeline. 

I also have a hard time seeing them poaching some AAUs from the Pac 12, which would put the other Pac 12 AAUs in the same situation as the Big 12 AAUs. 

The AAUs are going to have each others back, and the plan is going to involve as many AAUs staying "P5 relevant" as possible. 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #233 on: August 03, 2021, 04:28:55 PM »
No Kansas. Just no.

If we're adding from an AAU pool and the ACC can be looted (big IF), then UVA and UNC (and maybe Pitt) make the most sense. 

I prefer going West, and then waiting to see if the ACC schools start poking around and if that conference implodes.
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« Reply #234 on: August 03, 2021, 04:39:06 PM »
FWIW, I am not saying that I "want" them to take Kansas and Iowa State. I am just predicting that they will, and I will be happy to be wrong. 

I've felt this way for a while though, so I have kind of made my peace with it. At least it maintains the geographic integrity of the SEC and Big Ten being divided along civil war lines, while the Pac 12 gets everything west of the Central Time Zone. 

Silver linings are my specialty, I know. 
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #235 on: August 03, 2021, 05:21:12 PM »
the AAU thing is a great talking point from the academicians in the B1G, but we all know it doesn't mean squat compared to TV football revenue

Kansas, K-State, Iowa St., Texas Tech, TCU, Rice, Arizona, Arizona St., Utah aren't getting an invite
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« Reply #236 on: August 03, 2021, 05:27:11 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on August 03, 2021, 05:21:12 PM
the AAU thing is a great talking point from the academicians in the B1G, but we all know it doesn't mean squat compared to TV football revenue

Kansas, K-State, Iowa St., Texas Tech, TCU, Rice, Arizona, Arizona St., Utah aren't getting an invite
The school Presidents and Chancellors make the decisions. The tails do not wag the dogs in the B1G.
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Re: Likely expansion targets for the B1G
« Reply #237 on: August 03, 2021, 05:47:09 PM »
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