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Topic: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #294 on: October 08, 2018, 02:37:13 PM »
I get dogs from the local butcher these days. No lips and a-holes in my hot dog, thank you.
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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #295 on: October 08, 2018, 02:58:36 PM »
I have been to France probably 20 times total now, 2-3 times a year.  My take on eating food out is walk until you have not seen another American, and walk another few blocks, and you probably will find good places to eat.  Really good often as not.  And of course, there is no single type of French food or style.  What you will find in Bordeaux is different from Paris.  Lyon is generally considered the culinary mecca in France and based on my limited experience I would agree.  The primary wine there, not surprisingly, is Beaujolais, not the "nouveau" stuff we get here, but the real stuff from Gamay grapes.

They also treat you very well in my experience, and I've been on my own quite a few times now as well.  The "touristy" spots are just that, like being in Pigeon Forge, almost.  Sort of.  Well, not that bad.  Nowhere near that bad, but touristy nonetheless.

My wife oddly enough prefers American wines on the whole and I prefer French, though I really like American and Italian and Spanish and Germans wines as well.  There are general differences of course, but the differences are less that one is better than they are different and you may prefer A over B.  Or not.  All of my wine friends "in the business" prefer French wines over Italian mainly because of Champagne, they all really like Champagne a lot.  I do pretty well myself with the Cremant types which are far less expensive, or Cavas which are much much less expensive and often quite good.

I have not been to Italy or Spain nearly as much, just a few days in both cases, not enough to form a real opinion.

A few years back, I gave an invited talk at a French wine conference about the differences and similarities between American and French wines.  It was pretty entertaining I think, for me anyway.  And the food was good.  They don't know much about American viniculture of course.


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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #296 on: October 08, 2018, 03:26:25 PM »
I liked that movie with the new Capt. Kirk about California wine vs French wine.  
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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #297 on: October 08, 2018, 03:31:16 PM »
I like Washington wines, although mainstream has been catching on to them for a while now. They used to be a bargain.
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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #298 on: October 08, 2018, 03:31:26 PM »
I have been to France probably 20 times total now, 2-3 times a year.  My take on eating food out is walk until you have not seen another American, and walk another few blocks, and you probably will find good places to eat.  Really good often as not.  And of course, there is no single type of French food or style.  What you will find in Bordeaux is different from Paris.  Lyon is generally considered the culinary mecca in France and based on my limited experience I would agree.  The primary wine there, not surprisingly, is Beaujolais, not the "nouveau" stuff we get here, but the real stuff from Gamay grapes.

They also treat you very well in my experience, and I've been on my own quite a few times now as well.  The "touristy" spots are just that, like being in Pigeon Forge, almost.  Sort of.  Well, not that bad.  Nowhere near that bad, but touristy nonetheless.
Obviously I don't have much to say. I've been to downtown Paris for ~3 days this spring, and to Versailles for <48 hours for work in 2006. So I can't say I ventured beyond a tourist area. It was pretty much all tourist areas lol...
But as others brought up, basically everywhere we ate in Rome, Cinque Terre [touristy vacation spot] and Florence was amazing. The only bad things I can recall were the pizza at the Vatican cafeteria, and one sidewalk spot in Florence that was merely so-so. 
Whereas nothing we had in Paris was really very impressive.

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #299 on: October 08, 2018, 03:41:14 PM »
Absolutely love Florence. 
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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #300 on: October 08, 2018, 03:47:15 PM »
I tell folks Paris is my least favorite city in France, and they guffaw and gush about how they LOVED it.

I think my "sense of humor" is something a lot of folks miss.  Oddly enough.

The wife laughs, she grew up in Paris and knows what I mean.  Most Americans get to go to France once in their life, perhaps, and it will be Paris, and they miss out on the rest of the country.  It's akin to visiting the States and spending 3 days in NYC and one day in DC.

Almost.  France of course is smaller.

Bayeux was a nice place to visit I thought.


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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #301 on: October 08, 2018, 03:48:10 PM »
My step daughter lives with her family in Rambouillet.  They moved recently from near Versailles.  That seems like a nice city, the former.

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #302 on: October 08, 2018, 03:52:23 PM »
Mediterranean food (not just Greek) is my favorite cuisine.  

I've never seen such a full throated defense of fast food before.  Well done, I don't disagree with the POV at all.    The problem with In-N-Out is really the 'fanboys' of it, not the food itself, which as you described, is what it is.
Agreed, Mediterranean food is awesome.  Gyros, kebabs, falafel.... all awesome.
I also really enjoy Indian food.  Might be my favorite ethnic food.  Hell, I like most kinds of Asian food.  Thai especially.  That's some good eats right there.  I want to say that the clear noodles are actually Chinese in origin, but is more commonly associated with Thai cuisine.  And lots of peanuts.  Thai food might be the spiciest stuff I've ever had too.

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #303 on: October 08, 2018, 04:02:17 PM »
I may have mentioned a Thai place near us that claims to have been the first Thai restaurant in Atlanta - in 1977.

It's hard to imagine a large city with no Thai restaurants, etc.  

I know my first "Mexican" food was after I had started college.  I had my first pizza when I was about 16.  My Dad didn't cotton to food of that ilk, we had a pretty banal diet growing up.  My mom was a good cook though.

I think my first Chinese food was years after all that.  I can't recall when it was.  

We're lucky to have adopted so many different kinds of food.  The wife and I were reading the menu of a new Vietnamese place near us today.  Had it not been so busy we would have tried it.  It looked fine.  Just 3 blocks from us is a restaurant row in effect and this is on it now.

Up the street is a Spanish restaurant, which is really good also.  There are a number of poke places around for whatever reason.  We had brunch yesterday at a place called Cafe Intermezzo that LOOKS like Paris, and the wife loved it. 


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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #304 on: October 08, 2018, 04:04:43 PM »
I've never seen such a full throated defense of fast food before.  Well done, I don't disagree with the POV at all.    The problem with In-N-Out is really the 'fanboys' of it, not the food itself, which as you described, is what it is.
Yeah, and in some ways it's not even that they're "fanboys" at all. I gush about In n Out when I talk about it. 
The problem is that people hear how much we like it and get such insane expectations, and then they're let down. 
It's a burger. It's not a BJ from a supermodel. But people talk so insanely highly of In n Out that the expectations are the latter. 

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #305 on: October 08, 2018, 04:12:09 PM »
I may have mentioned a Thai place near us that claims to have been the first Thai restaurant in Atlanta - in 1977.
I wonder how that goes. Do you think they make it "super-authentic" because they know they're going to be the place that gets the entire Thai population for miles around, or do they try to Americanize it to make it better for the locals?

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I know my first "Mexican" food was after I had started college.  I had my first pizza when I was about 16.  My Dad didn't cotton to food of that ilk, we had a pretty banal diet growing up.  My mom was a good cook though.

Yeah, and when I lived in Atlanta, if it wasn't on Buford Highway, it probably wasn't "real" Mexican food.
Can't imagine not having pizza, though... That's just weird! :a102:



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I think my first Chinese food was years after all that.  I can't recall when it was.

Most people in America haven't had Chinese food. They've had American Chinese food. 



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We're lucky to have adopted so many different kinds of food.  The wife and I were reading the menu of a new Vietnamese place near us today.  Had it not been so busy we would have tried it.  It looked fine.  Just 3 blocks from us is a restaurant row in effect and this is on it now.

For the life of me, I don't understand picky eaters. There are so many amazing cuisines from all over the globe. I can't imagine deliberately walling myself off to that because I'm not familiar with them. 

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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #306 on: October 08, 2018, 04:13:09 PM »
 I gush about In n Out when I talk about it.
The problem is that people hear how much we like it and get such insane expectations, and then they're let down.
It's a burger. It's not a BJ from a supermodel. But people talk so insanely highly of In n Out that the expectations are the latter.
Well ya know people hear in and out and it automatically raises the bar from a salivation stand point
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Re: Last Breaths of a Dying Season SOC 10/6/18
« Reply #307 on: October 08, 2018, 04:15:51 PM »
Most people in America haven't had Chinese food. They've had American Chinese food.
Most probably wouldn't really want Chinese food. I've not been but I've heard stories from friends who have. Doesn't sound good at all.
Anyway, I do get a kick out of the fact that one of the busiest Chinese restaurant around my hood has a bunch of Mexicans working in the kitchen.
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