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Brutus Buckeye

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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2024, 09:52:32 PM »
Throw 'em a little chin music. 
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2024, 10:04:03 PM »
Quote from: Kris60 on March 27, 2024, 10:50:50 AM
Well, yeah, “strangle” was definitely meant for effect.  I think for me it was a culmination of seeing a lot of kids having that attitude and then ending the game with a strikeout and seemingly not caring.  I want my  kids to have fun playing a sport, but I also want them to win. I want them to have teammates who want to win.  It was weird. They have played 5 games now with varying success (2-3) but that’s the first time I’ve seen a lot of smiles after strikeouts.

I also wonder if that’s a defense mechanism.  Maybe she had to laugh so she wouldn’t cry.  No one wants to strike out to end a game that you could have possibly been the hero of.  Idk.

I asked my daughter after the game what the coach said and she said she got on them pretty good.  Not for smiling or laughing necessarily but just not being locked in.  She was constantly telling them to lay off high pitches, but they continued to swing at them.  Then they would just watch strikes go by.  Not always understanding the count, either.  Had a couple instances where kids were taking borderline pitches with two strikes and then swinging at crap when they were ahead in the count.

Just wanted to hear my some different perspectives.  I know this is the counter to the parents screaming at their kids and umpires, and players fighting each other, but there should be a middle ground there.
That makes sense. 

I used to have a job that had me around sports. My general rule of thumb, I hope is.

The coach is there to coach
Parents are there to encourage/guide their kid (so if your kid isn't trying or focused, fine to get on them, but also good to avoid being a wannabe coach)
And when it comes to someone else's kid, often that annoyance has to be sort of pressed down. It's on the coach to fix that. 

(Now I also don't know a bunch of dynamics with the team/history/opponent. Like how many serious travel players there are and such. That probably effects things)
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2024, 10:12:27 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 27, 2024, 10:09:16 AM
K60 is a competitive guy. He expects more. It's OK to expect more.

In my days, second/third place trophies went in the trash, or I simply wouldn't accept them.

I'd make an exception for a state runner up trophy, but never had that chance.
As I kind of said, for better or worse, when you go down the road of expecting things from someone else's kid, you likely get in trouble. It's on a coach to straighten it out. And while a parent may feel competitive, a parent is not competing. They're observing and rooting for a team and parenting their own.  

It's funny about the trophies because in the end, trophies are mostly about adults and not kids. Adults control the flow of them and such. Some adults aren't adult enough to set boundaries (like the situation when a sibling is given a gift on a birthday so they don't feel left out). Then again, a lot of real competitors don't care much for their actual trophies. One of UW's finest products was part of arguably the greatest sports moment in American history. You know where his medal is? Some box in the garage. 

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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2024, 12:28:30 AM »
Quote from: Brutus Buckeye on March 27, 2024, 09:52:32 PM
Throw 'em a little chin music.
Mudcat Grant use to say that when he called the Indians games in the '70s with Harry Jones it was like watching a game with buddies nobody gave a crap how accurate announcers were because the Indians were so bad for so long no one really paid attention as they were too busy reaching for another beer - good times.
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2024, 07:49:46 AM »
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2024, 07:52:13 AM »
Quote from: bayareabadger on March 27, 2024, 10:12:27 PM
As I kind of said, for better or worse, when you go down the road of expecting things from someone else's kid, you likely get in trouble. It's on a coach to straighten it out. And while a parent may feel competitive, a parent is not competing. They're observing and rooting for a team and parenting their own. 

It's funny about the trophies because in the end, trophies are mostly about adults and not kids. Adults control the flow of them and such. Some adults aren't adult enough to set boundaries (like the situation when a sibling is given a gift on a birthday so they don't feel left out). Then again, a lot of real competitors don't care much for their actual trophies. One of UW's finest products was part of arguably the greatest sports moment in American history. You know where his medal is? Some box in the garage.


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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2024, 07:53:33 AM »
THOUGHT OF THE DAY:

"Winning isn’t everything, but wanting to win is." - Vince Lombardi
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2024, 09:30:18 AM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on March 28, 2024, 07:52:13 AM
Miracle on Ice?
Well it certainly wasn't Chelios' 1998 captaincy
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2024, 09:39:07 AM »
That was not a good roster, nor a good head coach.
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #23 on: March 28, 2024, 06:59:22 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on March 28, 2024, 07:53:33 AM
THOUGHT OF THE DAY:

"Winning isn’t everything, but wanting to win is." - Vince Lombardi
hating to lose > wanting to win
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Re: “Just Have Fun Out There”
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2024, 04:23:18 AM »
I think we'd all agree there is a balance, and it's often parents who overdo it, not the kids.  I overdid it too often back in the day, not to some dramatic extent, but more than I'd do now.

If a kid strikes out, it's easy enough to look at least neutral, not giddy though.

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