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Honestbuckeye · « **Reply #966 on:** August 23, 2018, 11:32:24 PM »

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-zach-smith-investigation/2018/08/95616/gene-smiths-attorney-two-great-men-fell-on-the-sword-for-a-university-they-dearly-loved

Correct for those who said- this thing isn’t going away.

FearlessF · « **Reply #967 on:** August 23, 2018, 11:35:38 PM »

always many things that cannot be proven

It can't be proven that the investigation was a sham, but then the folks responsible for the investigation can't prove it wasn't a sham

I'd guess the investigators didn't have sufficient time to dig deeply down every rat hole

but, that's OK, because the press has nothing but time

I'd be curious as to how many man/hours were actually spent on investigating. Was it a 5 person team? Did they work 8 hours a day for 14 days?

How much hard digging was actually done?

I'm guessing they found plenty to warrant a 3-game suspension in the time they spent and someone deemed that sufficient.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #968 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:39:08 AM »

Quote from: Honestbuckeye on August 23, 2018, 11:32:24 PM

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/the-zach-smith-investigation/2018/08/95616/gene-smiths-attorney-two-great-men-fell-on-the-sword-for-a-university-they-dearly-loved

Correct for those who said- this thing isn’t going away.

Maybe...give it a few days

Cincydawg · « **Reply #969 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:41:31 AM »

I think most of the effort expended by the BoT and President were in discussing media relations and damage control.

I also think they botched that badly and did probably the worst thing possible, a kind of symbolic suspension to make it seem they did something, and that has not been accepted as sufficient. They may have been better off saying Meyer is in the clear, he made some misjudgments, but nothing warranting further penalties.

Everyone makes misjudgments, every coach, every one of us at times. But if they get public scrutiny, our "superiors" may need to make an example of us, whereas had it been a private thing they would have said "OK, do better next time.".

Cincydawg · « **Reply #970 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:43:34 AM »

Quote from: FearlessF on August 23, 2018, 10:45:45 PM

and just because it was on Zach's card doesn't mean it wasn't expensed to the athletic department

one way or another

We had corporate AMEX cards for travel. We were responsible for the bill. We weren't supposed to use it for private tabs but could in a situation, we just couldn't expense it and paid it ourselves.

I got in a bind once because the rental car agency wouldn't take my personal card and I used the company AMEX, and I was on a job interview, which was a bit of a pickle, but nobody noticed. I just paid the bill myself rather quickly.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #971 on:** August 24, 2018, 05:46:39 AM »

And the reason this won't go away soon is the media types see blood in the water here. If any of them can find (or fabricate) ANYTHING they get their 15 minutes. It's huge for their careers.

They can interview folks out there in the athletic department for more dirt, more gossip, more whatever, and they will. I bet there are at least 20 "reporters" in Columbus who would be elsewhere in normal times. Urban won't be able to leave his house, nor will his wife. Every secretary in the department will be facing questions from the media.

That press conference was brief, too brief, and too long at the same time, and raised a lot of questions.

MaximumSam · « **Reply #972 on:** August 24, 2018, 06:04:23 AM »

I'm not sure they botched it. Again, give it a few days and see what comes. Obviously, there will be more questions, but ripping off the band aid was going to hurt and there were no good ways to make it happen. It's out, it's done.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #973 on:** August 24, 2018, 06:34:40 AM »

Yes, we will wait and see, and I could well be wrong here and we'll see this doesn't have legs and basically goes away amidst the real news of the season starting.

MrNubbz · « **Reply #974 on:** August 24, 2018, 08:41:53 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 24, 2018, 05:41:31 AM

They may have been better off saying Meyer is in the clear, he made some misjudgments, but nothing warranting further penalties.

Everyone makes misjudgments, every coach, every one of us at times. But if they get public scrutiny, our "superiors" may need to make an example of us, whereas had it been a private thing they would have said "OK, do better next time.".

I dunno Gainesville.........C-Bus.Urban's own arrogance painted himself in the corner.Seriously IMO the guy is either a narcissist or has no common sense or both.Like Mario said - last week they(the Meyers) counseled the Smiths.This week he says he didn't know Zach outside of work - really the guy on your Fla staff.It's this smug condescending BS that makes people just want to shred him.But he sits at the podium like Christ come to clean the Temple.Again the coup de gras here was the assholes blatant disregard for taking a whole 2 minutes to prepare a statement for the Conference Media Days event.Then the University could have prepped a statement and much of this could have been avoided.Now in the eyes of the Public he is a Liar - and unfortunately the face of Ohio State Football.

bayareabadger · « **Reply #975 on:** August 24, 2018, 08:48:29 AM »

So now he’s REALLY DQed for BTCOY, right?

847badgerfan · « **Reply #976 on:** August 24, 2018, 09:16:55 AM »

Quote from: bayareabadger on August 24, 2018, 08:48:29 AM

So now he’s REALLY DQed for BTCOY, right?

What are the criteria for the award?

NorthernOhioBuckeye · « **Reply #977 on:** August 24, 2018, 09:22:37 AM »

Quote from: SuperMario on August 23, 2018, 09:20:15 PM

This honestly leaves me speechless and I think you should spend time with victims of abuse. You’re basically saying she should just be happy she had a money train and so what about the abuse. That’s a mind blowing position.
People tend to have an incredibly difficult time leaving abusive situations. Even more so when children are involved. Questioning her for not leaving is an oversimplification of how difficult that decision is in reality.
I personally believe that she’s half crazy, saying she should be thsnking urban Meyer for saving the job of her abusive husband is just nuts. How about this... maybe if urban fires him because he’s a monster and a scumbag, it causes him to actually seek help, get it and turn his life around and save his wife from years of abuse and save their children from witness years of unhealthy marriage.

If Courtney was being physically abused by Zach, she had the means to end it with one phone call. To try to hang that on Meyer is a stretch. To want Urban to apologize for this abuse is laughable. Urban didn't touch her nor did he condone it.

I find it telling that she didn't go to the media until Zach was fired. One could postulate that it was due to the money flow being shut off that caused her to break her silence. I also find it telling that she essentially set Zach up to get him on the trespassing charge by intentionally failing to meet at a predetermined drop off point to allow him to drop off her son, and then sitting on the porch with a camera to catch him in her driveway.

I don't believe that Zach is innocent in this and is most likely a complete scum bag. But I also don't believe that Courtney has a halo over her head either. Based on the numerous reports on the matter, I think they are both bat crap crazy. I also believe that Meyer saw their marriage as the train wreck that is was and was doing what he could be ensure that money would not be an issue in their failed marriage.

betarhoalphadelta · « **Reply #978 on:** August 24, 2018, 09:36:13 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 24, 2018, 05:41:31 AM

Everyone makes misjudgments, every coach, every one of us at times. But if they get public scrutiny, our "superiors" may need to make an example of us, whereas had it been a private thing they would have said "OK, do better next time.".

I think privately telling Zach, over and over and over, to "do better next time", is what got Urban in this mess.

Roaddawg · « **Reply #979 on:** August 24, 2018, 09:47:00 AM »

Quote from: 847badgerfan on August 24, 2018, 09:16:55 AM

What are the criteria for the award?

1. Not be the Head Coach of Ohio State Football.
2. Does not matter after #1.

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