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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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847badgerfan

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #252 on: August 03, 2018, 03:18:58 PM »
As I said up thread Gene could be in deep kimchi
Right. Gene is not making this decision. (Oh) Gee is no longer in Columbus.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #253 on: August 03, 2018, 03:20:40 PM »
Informative post. I didn't know that sequence.
There's more to it than just that. It goes back to 2009, when her mother and Urbie's life coach convinced her to stay with the POS.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #254 on: August 03, 2018, 03:32:01 PM »
Gene Smith hired Dan McCarney as the head coach at Iowa State with his own domestic abuse arrest when Smith was there, so it wouldn't be out of character for Smith to ignore that red flag.
Gene's new boss is rumoredly much more serious than his old one.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #255 on: August 03, 2018, 03:37:12 PM »
Is Gene Smith gonna be in trouble? Local Radio reports coming out that Urban reported other incidents concerning Zach and Courtney to Gene & Title 9 Office.

Also several Layers coming out saying since Courtney Smith isn't a student or employee of the University she isn't protected by Title 9. OSU has a seperate Sexual Abuse code of Conduct (Handled by the Title 9 Office) that should be considered.
My understanding: 
Courtney isn't protected by Title IX and can't realistically sue OSU even if standard ops weren't followed. But at the same time, Urban was contractually obligated to report DV against her to the Title IX office.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #256 on: August 03, 2018, 03:40:21 PM »
I am curious why is defending the football coach mean they are not worried about the woman. These things are not mutually exclusive and is used by people all the time to shut down their "opponents". You don't want a tax hike for schools, you must not care about the children, etc. Come on, at least be fair when you criticize.
So a large segment of the people who are defending UM are also talking about protecting the well being of the woman (aka the victim?)  C'mon man, be realistic.  You're right, they are mutually exclusive, but you're telling me you don't see the segment of people defending meyer and trying to dig up dirt on this woman to smear her name and character? 
I get your analogy with taxes and schools but this is not that. 

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #257 on: August 03, 2018, 03:45:44 PM »
Is Gene Smith gonna be in trouble? Local Radio reports coming out that Urban reported other incidents concerning Zach and Courtney to Gene & Title 9 Office.
I have no idea of the veracity of this information so I do not vouch for it.  I didn't even hear it myself, I'm just quoting @TyphonInc .  
That said, if it is true that Urban reported this to Gene and Title 9 office, Urban should be reinstated within a week.  In the long run that might be worse for Ohio State, but it should put Urban in the clear, no?  

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #258 on: August 03, 2018, 03:49:44 PM »
So a large segment of the people who are defending UM are also talking about protecting the well being of the woman (aka the victim?)  C'mon man, be realistic.  You're right, they are mutually exclusive, but you're telling me you don't see the segment of people defending meyer and trying to dig up dirt on this woman to smear her name and character?
I get your analogy with taxes and schools but this is not that.
First:
Welcome back Mario and congratulations on the new baby!  
Second:
I think the potential "other facts" that HB and others are waiting to see are something along the lines of what @TyphonInc stated and I commented on upthread.  Ie, if it turns out the Urban reported this to Gene and/or Title 9 office then it would seem to me that Urban is in the clear and Gene and/or Title 9 office are in trouble.  We'll see.  

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #259 on: August 03, 2018, 03:49:56 PM »
So a large segment of the people who are defending UM are also talking about protecting the well being of the woman (aka the victim?)  C'mon man, be realistic.  You're right, they are mutually exclusive, but you're telling me you don't see the segment of people defending meyer and trying to dig up dirt on this woman to smear her name and character?

well, there's no need to bring the victim's character into the argument regarding Meyer.  The woman was assaulted more than once.  There's enough proof of that.
The defense of Meyer is about what Urban knew and didn't know and what he did or didn't do with that information.
The poor battered woman is no part of that what so ever.
If you're defending the WR coach Smith, then go after his ex-wife.
If you're defending Meyer, then go after Shelly or someone in the administration, such as the AD.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #260 on: August 03, 2018, 03:58:08 PM »
Did Urban lie to his bosses and do they want to fire him for that? It's a title IX thing and the feds have to be considered. The rest of the stories are all window dressing.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #261 on: August 03, 2018, 04:01:35 PM »
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #262 on: August 03, 2018, 04:35:39 PM »
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #263 on: August 03, 2018, 04:38:28 PM »
That said, if it is true that Urban reported this to Gene and Title 9 office, Urban should be reinstated within a week.  In the long run that might be worse for Ohio State, but it should put Urban in the clear, no?  
If that's the case, why did they put him on administrative leave? 
Money-wise, Urban is INCREDIBLY valuable to the university. Don't you think it would make sense to come out and say "Urban did what he was required to do, and we had failures in our Title IX office that we need to learn how to fix."
That kills the PR cycle. Nobody cares of someone who heads up the Title IX office is scalped over this. Or even OSU's president. They care if the head coach is scalped. 
I realize none of those people above him want to fall on their sword, but if Urban reported this up, don't you think he'd be saying so to protect himself from being thrown under the bus?

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #264 on: August 03, 2018, 04:42:01 PM »
The poor battered woman is no part of that what so ever.

ff this story has lots of tenacles,she didn't press charges for what 7 years.Then didn't want him to get fired either as she had Zack on the line for alimony/child support.Urban finally cans him and he's at fault.I'm sure more will come out.The kids could have used better parenting that is for sure
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #265 on: August 03, 2018, 04:44:12 PM »
If that's the case, why did they put him on administrative leave?

Money-wise, Urban is INCREDIBLY valuable to the university. Don't you think it would make sense to come out and say "Urban did what he was required to do, and we had failures in our Title IX office that we need to learn how to fix."

That kills the PR cycle. Nobody cares of someone who heads up the Title IX office is scalped over this. Or even OSU's president. They care if the head coach is scalped.

I realize none of those people above him want to fall on their sword, but if Urban reported this up, don't you think he'd be saying so to protect himself from being thrown under the bus?
If I were Urban Meyer, no I wouldn't be saying anything in public.  I'd be talking to my attorney.  
You make good points.  It makes little sense to put him on administrative leave if he did report but on the other hand putting him on administrative leave bought them time.  
You are right that the Title 9 administrator getting sacked is a MUCH lower profile event than the Head Coach but again, they may have just needed time.  
The other thing is that we (and tOSU) can't be certain that we know everything.  Maybe they are buying time to see if anything else comes out.  
Bottom line, assuming that the report is true, I think they are buying time with the administrative leave and the investigation.  

 

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