Perhaps the BEST B1G Forum anywhere, here at College Football Fan Site, CFB51!!!

It’s a bit disingenuous to say we have one side of the story with the text messages and pictures, unless you believe they are made up. Urban’s wife, the Director of Football Ops wife all allude to the disgusting behavior of an absuive spouse, on top of those text messages stating it’s a known thing amongst the coaches. Heck, Zach smith’s own text even acknowledged it by saying he had sought treatment for it, followed by saying he would destroy her.

Urban knew. Just last week at media days he said he and his wife discuss everything. He brought her to help counsel Smith and his wife while in Florida for the 09 issues. Should we also ignore the Cleveland paper noting the multiple times police came to the home.

That is one persistent scheme by a spouse with no real end game, until now. Courtney dragged the family through a 9!! year conspiratorial plot to bring her husband through the mud just now. All in the name of losing the income source for her and her family. I have trouble reconciling that.

And to push the no charges thing after all we have elarn d about domestic violence is sad. I wonder why the wife of coaching legends grandson, in a football crazed town wouldn’t pursue a very public court process? Note, he is the sole income earner for the family at $400+k a year. Take a look at the comments about her photos on brett mcmurpjy’s Facebook page and tell me why she wouldn’t have reported sooner.


https://twitter.com/slmandel/status/1024703004849532928?s=12

Let’s not lose site of who the abuser was (Zach Smith) but a lot of individuals are to blame for where this has landed in the last week.

LOL

PC=Respect

I don't know anyone who doesn't demand respect,  but keep whining about "PC".

"No, dammit! If I want to be an asshole to someone, disrespect them, and berate them, I should be allowed without the PC police! Wait...what did you say about 'guns and religion' you disrespecting a-hole?".

I love those who whine about "PC". Easy targets, because they're just as sensitive, if not more, than anyone else. 

What he said was that when they looked into it now- there was nothing there.  It has already been reported that there was no arrest and smiths name was redacted from the police report- so in other words the authorities do not have enough to even press charges. Now why do you think that is?
Meyers wife employed her to press charges.  Why?
Lastly/ was their a risk of false termination at that point?

You press charges for generally two reasons most of the time (a lawyer can correct me on this)
1. There is a sense a conviction can be achieved
2. They can be used to leverage a plea
Now just because I can’t convict someone (an especially big challenge in DV cases), doesn’t mean the thing didn’t happen. Before 1970, one could not rape their spouse in a legal sense. But you bet it could happen. And courts don’t aim to take on really long shot cases just because.
Innocent until proven guilty ends up being a rather narrow guiding principle. It just is. Innocent people can be put in pretrial jail for months on end until it’s easier to say they’re guilty to something lesser just to ease the financial burdan. Likewise, by its nature, it means many guilty people will not be found that way by any system.
A million dollar job and small fiefdom is a privilege, not a right. As Ramzy said, there was a longterm stink on Smith. Urban chose to keep that around. And that can always cost. 
(Also, someone did a close listen to his big ten media day comment. An interesting detail was him kind of waiving off the 2009 thing as “they were a young couple.” This in reference to someone possibly being drunk and bouncing his pregnant wife off the wall. As a high-profile human, that in itself seems an issue)

I wonder, does McMurphy investigate this story if Urb merely said 'no comment' or some such 'I'm not going to discuss that matter here.'  (during media day)?   His answer, while not necessarily intentional, volunteered information.  I admit to not having read all of McMurphy's report carefully to construct his time line. (which is why I haven't commented on fate of Urban, only to point out the real life challenges from handling DV cases from a police/prosecutors standpoint, which of course are wholly unrelated to whether or not Urban Meyer should be fired, punished, etc.)

Yes, it is a horrible tragedy that victims are intimidated, pressured, coerced into not coming forward.  All day, I agree.  It is so GD frustrating when you work these cases.  I mean it, next to crimes against children, toughest cases to work mentally for me were DV.   In part, this is why large counties devote FT staff to being Victim Witness Coordinators.  Unfortunately, it is often not enough.    At the same time,  we can't go convicting people of crimes (DV, rape, etc.) based on hearsay.  The Sixth Amendment is a very real right for all of us, not some right made-up by men and women in robes.   The defendant has a right to confront the witness, and that means in court, not a sworn affidavit, not appearing by video conference, not on a transcript of text messages to the most honest and reliable of witnesses.

This isn't a defense of Smith, Meyer or tOSU, or anybody else.   These people and parties can and should face their own consequences based on their actions or inactions.  Whether the remedies are civil, criminal (for Smith), or merely administrative, they ought not be conducted by a social media/old fashioned media mob.

You press charges for generally two reasons most of the time (a lawyer can correct me on this)
1. There is a sense a conviction can be achieved
2. They can be used to leverage a plea
Now just because I can’t convict someone (an especially big challenge in DV cases), doesn’t mean the thing didn’t happen. Before 1970, one could not rape their spouse in a legal sense. But you bet it could happen. And courts don’t aim to take on really long shot cases just because.
Innocent until proven guilty ends up being a rather narrow guiding principle. It just is. Innocent people can be put in pretrial jail for months on end until it’s easier to say they’re guilty to something lesser just to ease the financial burdan. Likewise, by its nature, it means many guilty people will not be found that way by any system.

I've never seen a case charged based on a sense of conviction. (no offense to the remark) Going to trial? Now that requires the DA to look at the case again and evaluate the stakes.  It is quite embarrassing, unethical  and damaging to a DA's office to charge people with crimes which can't get past go.  Go=probable cause.  You only charge when you have PC.  You don't have it (even with a sense of guilt by the defendant) you gotta go get it.
Once a person is arrested (and in custody), that person must be brought before a judge or magistrate within 48 hours.  At that point the State must produce a criminal complaint demonstrating there is a probable cause that the charging crime was committed (must identify the criminal statute) AND probable cause that it was committed by the defendant.  This is typically presented on a few pages, describes the who what when and where, and it must be signed by some sworn official (usually a law enforcement officer, or prosecutor (sometimes a game warden).  If they can't do this, the person is released from custody immediately.   If State can get to this stage later, they can summon the person, or issue an arrest warrant. (This is common in DV, when a victim comes forward a day or few days later).
It is at this time the person is read the charges, right to atty, etc.  Then bail is determined.  A case like this, probably not cash bail, but certainly all kinds of no contact conditions.   Defendant signs signature bond, leaves, comes back for next appearance (arraignment), where they formally plead NG (usually).  In between Bail Hearing and Arraignment, this is the likeliest time the Defendant and DA discuss any plea bargain, if any is offered.   This is also when the DA typically learns whether or not the Victim is A. reliable, and B. going to testify.   You can count on the Defendant telling his/her lawyer,  'she ain't going to talk'.   Again, defense counsel stressed on this point too.  Who's for real?
Plea bargains in DV and OWI cases are extremely closely examined by DAs office, every women's group in the public,  MAAD, etc.   In any other non-violent crime,  yes, plea bargains are valuable tools of efficiency, supported by both sides of the bar, and the courts.   What are you really pleading 'down' to, when you have a unreliable witness in a misdemeanor battery case.  Criminal Disorderly Conduct is a 'fav' of the State.   
#For sake of discussion, let's assume the charges are misdemeanor, and not felonies (which would require either an indictment by a grand jury (filing of an 'Information')  or a preliminary hearing (a mini probable cause hearing).  That's where a defendant could very well be 'in custody' because there's cash bail which they can't post, for an extended period of time, but of course, they could exercise their right to a speedy trial.  That means the Preliminary Hearing has to take place in 10 days, with trail to follow 20 days later.  Majority of DV cases are charged as simple battery.   Substantial battery (felony assault) would bring all of this into play.  A plea bargain at this level, is incredibly scrutinized, only signed off on by Deputy or above, and usually not w/o full support of the Victim Witness Coordinator.  

Time and again leaders that almost always have sound judgement and are wildly successful get trapped because of those they keep around. 

Loyalty can be a major blindspot. It has ruined CEO’s, politicians, religious leaders and coaches. Bringing up names will probably garner debates we don’t want to get into. But you tend to fall one of two ways. Through your own undoing ( see Bobby Petrino ) or through a tangled web of what you have kept around you for too long.

unfortunately, Meyer is gonna get both.  Regardless of what he deserves.
today's PC over the top mob is very strong at Universities across the nation and they are allowed to have power and presence

The left eating itself.  If you're not left enough, then you're on the right, somehow.  It's all so broken, from politics to college football coaching.