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This is a very touchy subject and can bring out anger and many other emotions. My wife was date raped in college, and to this day if I could ever find the guy, I'd... How's that for anger? It happened 15 years before I even met her. Fucking prick. I'll...

I'm all for waiting for all the facts, but based on what has been made public, it's really difficult to believe Urban Meyer had zero knowledge of this situation. It's very interesting that some are more prone to rush to the defense of a football coach, asking for him to be protected and less worried about a woman who was clearly beat for a long period of time.

Urban has a history of being a liar. If that can't be acknowledged, there's a lot of heads in the sand. 

I'm all for waiting for all the facts, but based on what has been made public, it's really difficult to believe Urban Meyer had zero knowledge of this situation. It's very interesting that some are more prone to rush to the defense of a football coach, asking for him to be protected and less worried about a woman who was clearly beat for a long period of time.

Urban has a history of being a liar. If that can't be acknowledged, there's a lot of heads in the sand.

I think it is more interesting that fans of a certain school are the ones who seem to be rushing to judgement- and the same ones who characterize my call for at least getting the other side of the story as defending something so atrocious. Not a coincidence. 
It follows that that same fan base- when faced with media charges against their school- not only went into denial mode- but many still boycott that media outlet. 
Lastly-where does it say thatUrban claimed to know nothing about this?  He already clarified the 2009- and how it was reported to his superiors, and how and why he and his wife got involved. 
He also said he did look into the 2015 claims and without giving out personal details about smith or his wife- concluded ther was nothing there- which does jive with the police report. 
I think the odds are extremely high here- that Meyer learned enough to take more action than just play marriage counselor. But he at least deserves the investigation and opportunity to present his side 
Anyone who doesn’t understand this has their head buried in the sand- and gives the appearance of being more concerned with winning than the human beings involved.  

   
Let’s just agree on the fact that a person who hits women and anyone who covers for them are POS/ as well as anyone who defends it.
The only thing we disagree on is whether a person accused of any of the above has a right to present their side and be heard.
Some day if you or someone you care about is falsely accused- you will feel different and understand how important a person’ right to defend themselves is.

I agree with this 100%.
I would hope how I have presented myself in previous discussions concerning illegal/decrepit behavior is one of let's gather as much information as we can before pass judgment. (and not that I'm just another OSU Homer who likes the W's.)

A few thoughts:

1)  I don't think there's any disagreement here that DV perps have done evil and need to be dealt with, and that society as a whole needs to improve every circumstance leading up to and surrounding problems like that.    

2)  But DAYUM, there is some unhealthy Guilty Until Proven Innocent present in our society, and it shows up in this thread too.  Jail Zack Smith, fire Urban Meyer, if that's what's warranted, but give them their due process, let them have their day in court with a jury that hasn't already mentally convicted them and a defense that does its job to the best of its ability.  Our justice system was founded partly on the principle of making the prosecution earn it, and I whole-heartedly agree with that.  Reacting emotionally, not allowing a defense or waiting for the conclusion of a full investigation, and comments like "FUCK EVERYBODY WHO DEFENDS THESE POS's!!!!" have never been the basis for justice.  It's the basis for a lynch mob.  

3)  Part of me fights off an inner smirk because I've always had a good time with Buckeye fans until Meyer was hired and I told them he was a scumbag POS at Florida and he'd likely be a scumbag POS there too.  Upon which some of them (a couple here) turned on me and told me what a hater I was.  That part of me wants this to end in tears, because among other things, I am a petty sumbitch.  

4)  FFS, do not engage in a straw man fallacy and think that anything in #3 should be interpreted as me being somehow happy that a woman was a victim of DV or overlooking that her horrific experiences are the actual story here.  Well, not here, or anywhere else, but her story SHOULD BE the story.  Urban Meyer, his shitbagness, and my childish sense of justification every time he proves it, should really be a footnote in the headlines and on the networks.  

5)  Hey guys.  Anybody found Stingray yet?  I miss that dude.  

I think it is more interesting that fans of a certain school are the ones who seem to be rushing to judgement- and the same ones who characterize my call for at least getting the other side of the story as defending something so atrocious. Not a coincidence.
It follows that that same fan base- when faced with media charges against their school- not only went into denial mode- but many still boycott that media outlet.
Lastly-where does it say thatUrban claimed to know nothing about this?  He already clarified the 2009- and how it was reported to his superiors, and how and why he and his wife got involved.
He also said he did look into the 2015 claims and without giving out personal details about smith or his wife- concluded ther was nothing there- which does jive with the police report.
I think the odds are extremely high here- that Meyer learned enough to take more action than just play marriage counselor. But he at least deserves the investigation and opportunity to present his side
Anyone who doesn’t understand this has their head buried in the sand- and gives the appearance of being more concerned with winning than the human beings involved.  

So you're blaming my opinion on being a Michigan fan? Pretty weak response honestly. I've read a couple articles and listened to local, pro-buckeye radio stations on my way home from work yesterday and every radio presence said it looked bad for Urban.
When did he claim not to know about it? Well, at the Big Ten media day when he said last night was the first he heard of the 2015 incident. The played the audio on the radio. Texts from his wife to the victim clearly state that Urban doesn't know how he wants to handle it.
I'm not burn him at the stake guy as I'd like to hear more facts, but the facts that have been released and his public statements are pretty damning at minimum, that he blatantly lied when originally asked. For clarity, I'm not saying he should be fired for that alone.
I don't think it was his job to play marriage counselor, but the fact he continued to keep him on his staff along with his history says a lot. The people you choose to surround yourself over long periods of time say a lot about the person. Again, not a reason to fire someone, but a reason I can have an opinion on character.
And let's be clear since you want to say my personal opinion is solely because I'm a Michigan fan. I have disliked Urban Meyer since 2002. If we go to the WayBackMachine and dig up the collegefootballnews, I'm sure we can find some posts of me ranting about UM. I watched him lie to personal friends that played for him, only to watch him do the same to Utah players a couple years later, then have a team full of inmates running the asylum at Florida. The dude should call Tim Tebow every day for creating a distraction and making him look like a decent human being.