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SMDH - Oh nothing,absolutely nothing there weren't like 34 player arrests during his tenure there.No worries what so ever they were being addressed with the tried and true "Circle of Trust".The envy & blueprint for such obstacles for Programs across the land.

yup. Florida and everywhere else Urban has been

This is not about Ohio State, it's about Urban

I will add, I guarantee you that you don’t believe for a second that reporting it to compliance would have changed a single thing. Your too smart to think otherwise.

Asking your staff to get and follow the police investigation, conferring with your boss and your Title 9 officer and Human Resources, and asking your troubled employee every day if things are ok at home....but the hey, compliance( who has no authority in this matter) would magically save the day.

And if he had,  not one person out there- including you, would have a different opinion.  Truth.  

There are multiple issues here. I honestly don't believe that Urban condones DV, and had he found Courtney credible, and truly believe Zach hit her, I think he would have been gone.

The problem is the pattern:

• Knew of and was involved in the 2009 allegations, in which no charges were filed. Obviously doesn't prove anything about ZS, but goes to show that clearly there were issues in that marriage.
• When hiring ZS at OSU, didn't disclose the 2009 issues at all. As stated by the report, he was not required to disclose them, but given future points discussed below, is a potential judgement error.
• In 2014, ZS goes to a strip club with HS coaches. It's not clear whether this is an NCAA violation, but Urban was without a doubt aware of this and didn't report a potential violation to Compliance.
• In the 2015 investigation, in addition to not reporting anything to Compliance, Urban apparently didn't report anything about the 2009 allegations to Gene Smith, to HR, to anyone. Seems like this would be highly pertinent information for anyone monitoring the investigation.
• Through late 2015 and into 2016, ZS had numerous issues. Being late. Not going on recruiting trips and lying to say he was there. Gene even recommended that Urban fire ZS over this, and he did not do so.
• June 2016 Urban advised ZS to go into rehab for a substance abuse issue.
• Upon the start of the investigation, Urban apparently looked into ways to clear old text messages--whether he deleted any is unknown. Perhaps his phone already had the setting turned on so he didn't have to, and thus could truthfully say he didn't delete anything because the setting already took care of it.  

The pattern is one of continually protecting someone who was a ticking time bomb. Of withholding key information from Gene Smith and HR during the 2015 investigation that could have affected their recommendations or decisions in the matter. Of allowing himself to be blinded by nepotism in his loyalty to Earl Bruce's progeny to the detriment of the team, and eventually of his own and the university's reputation.

The pattern is that while none of us know whether ZS actually committed DV, Urban showed a consistent pattern to shield ZS from scrutiny and accountability, and thus it's hard for anyone outside of Columbus to truly believe that he would have taken the right steps absent basically a smoking gun.

Again, I think Urban probably found CS to lack credibility, and believed that while the relationship between CS and ZS was toxic, that Zach wasn't abusing her. But one wonders--absent an eyewitness report of ZS slugging Courtney--how long Urban would have looked the other way?

There are multiple issues here. I honestly don't believe that Urban condones DV, and had he found Courtney credible, and truly believe Zach hit her, I think he would have been gone.

This,neither do most of us it's just the on going circus,that he should have brought down the hammer a long time ago.Urbs obviously knew about his drinking and missing meetings.That bad relationship would have got Zach dismissed at a lot less lucrative positions - so that's something the two brats had to figure out for themselves.But UFM's handling of this abortion that he nurtured for 6 seasons is the crux of the froth

• In 2014, ZS goes to a strip club with HS coaches. It's not clear whether this is an NCAA violation, but Urban was without a doubt aware of this and didn't report a potential violation to Compliance.
• In the 2015 investigation, in addition to not reporting anything to Compliance, Urban apparently didn't report anything about the 2009 allegations to Gene Smith, to HR, to anyone. Seems like this would be highly pertinent information for anyone monitoring the investigation.
• Through late 2015 and into 2016, ZS had numerous issues. Being late. Not going on recruiting trips and lying to say he was there. Gene even recommended that Urban fire ZS over this, and he did not do so. 

There is enough right there for termination.Those oversights are not those of responsible leader of BlueBlood program.I didn't know UFM knew about the stip clubs with HS Coaches no less,and he did nothing.Yup he should have lanced that boil along time ago.And The Ohio State University should lance the boil named Urban Meyer - accountability and conduct unbecoming

agreed

I don't care

I assumed this would be the outcome all along

Let me clarify something the whole Zack/Courtney chamber pot is a minute reason I can't stand UFM.Coaches wives have come out and said they weren't aware of abuse.Others said they were always fighting.Courtney's own mother repeatedly said she had an attitude/alcohol problem(as if he didn't) and had got in Zach's face also.Beat reporters and I believe it was Ramzy from 11 Warriors said everyone knew about Zach - either late or no show to both staff & team meetings.They also knew that Courtney was a problem child.Ramzey had said something along the lines like "nobody liked Courtney,which is odd because no one liked Zach either."
  McMurphy broke 2 stories the morning of july23rd,Later that morning Zach is fired.Now I doubt that is coincidental but for the sake of argument let's say it is.Urban Fookin' Meyer knew this festering boil had to be lanced along time ago.He is paid more than handsomely to make sure it is.I don't think for one minute Courtney is a victim but she played that card the minute her meal ticket had been pulled.
  The smug narcissist UFM couldn't even take a whole 2 minutes to write a statement addressing the dismissal.Oh Hey thanx,Coach - biggest fargin' media event of the year and you blew it off like you are beyond reproach.A properly worded statement would have went a long was assuaging the shitstorm that followed.Instead the face of the Football program and to some extent the University(like it or not) smells like a bag or burning rats in a Meth Lab.
  Meyer grotesquely dismisses & brushes aside inquires from the media who unlike him are prepared and fulfilling their obligations to their employers.He badly stumbles thru some deflections then presents the subject matter as a made up story.Now anyone who can't see that Urbz was either a smug and/or condescending incompetent dick is a blatantly blinded Homer.Most of the us older fans are pissed this poser dragged the good name thru the abyss.And a lot of Grads - even younger ones are not wearing the gear on game day the way they use to !!!.I don't want to hear the wankers attempt to to smooth things over.He talked a lot of shit when in Gainesville and that habit has reared it's ugly head again in C-Bus.Fix something?Ya of his own making,who's fault is that?

Wow. This thread really blew up since yesterday when I thought the tweet would be the final talking point, which would quietly end it. Nubbz, this post is hilriously epic because it’s the type of feedback I’m hearing from all of my buddies. Most of them started out defending him initially, but now they’re just pissed and wish he’d stfu. Smug and condescending are definitely common terms being used.
HB - as someone that deeply respects you, I encourage you to walk away from this one. Your responses aren’t you. Your anger isn’t you. I think it’s fair to say you see it different than quite a few people. This topic isn’t bringing out the best of this group. Maybe pack it in?