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Topic: Is Urby In Trouble Here?

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1050 on: August 25, 2018, 12:30:53 PM »
Super if you're going that route McMurphy deleted/edited his facebook acct I don't know how many times.Meyer is a bad look with his flip flopping and ignoring Zach's juvenile behavior.He evidently wasn't liked by the staff as he was really a very bad coach.
About that, we learned a key thing:
  • After McMurphy learned about the felonious arrest in 2015 but hours/days before he published, the Powell police department, 3 years after the fact, edited the file, claiming terminology had changed, and now filed the event with the arrest box being *unchecked* (very weird and poorly explained on Powell's part)
  • So that's not on McMurphy. And even when we thought it was, he left an edit trail (Facebook logs/publishes edit histories automatically).
  • So not only was McMurphy ultimately proven correct, even before that, it wasn't as shady as his detractors promised
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1051 on: August 25, 2018, 12:39:56 PM »
According to an IT guy if court ordered that's not hard to get back that info.
It's true. Whether on the cloud (iMessage) or by device forensics, it can be retrieved. But only with a court order, and we should doubt that will ever happen (and even if it does, that Urban will still have that device). An FOIA request wouldn't bring this up either. Not without a court order. Which is really unlikely. 
Having the technology to get them (we do) and still not seeing them (we won't) in no way absolves the conspiracy with Voltolini or deletion or tips the balances to say there's probably nothing there.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1052 on: August 25, 2018, 12:52:36 PM »
About that, we learned a key thing:
  • After McMurphy learned about the felonious arrest in 2015 but hours/days before he published, the Powell police department, 3 years after the fact, edited the file, claiming terminology had changed, and now filed the event with the arrest box being *unchecked* (very weird and poorly explained on Powell's part)
  • So that's not on McMurphy. And even when we thought it was, he left an edit trail (Facebook logs/publishes edit histories automatically).
  • So not only was McMurphy ultimately proven correct, even before that, it wasn't as shady as his detractors promised
It also looks like mcMurphy released the original copy showing it was checked as an arrest. There was some confusion initially because there didn’t appear to be a copy of it saying there was an arrest but he has posted that and put it to rest

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1053 on: August 25, 2018, 01:00:38 PM »
Wow. I didn't know that.
If after all that copy exists, the PPD may yet face heat. Whether Powell has to answer for being sketchy will be up to lawyers.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1054 on: August 25, 2018, 02:06:51 PM »
  • So not only was McMurphy ultimately proven correct, even before that, it wasn't as shady as his detractors promised


I forget/don't know all the particulars(really I don't)Fox Sports wasn't letting McMurphy off the hook.Saw separate interviews with Brady Quinn and another with Doug Gottlieb they were both questioning the methods/accuracy/motives on some of his reporting
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1055 on: August 25, 2018, 02:17:15 PM »
I don't know about the interview where Gottlieb was harsh towards McMurphy, but I do know of the one where Gottlieb nonstop praised McMurphy:

In any event, the list of things against McMurphy across these last few weeks has been:
  • He reported a felony arrest that the Powell PD says never happened (which we now know is only because they recently went back and edited the record)
  • and "ooooh, but like what are his motives, man"

The OSU investigation, presser, and now this news about the Powell PD have fully vindicated McMurphy. He was the most aggressive, consistent and trustworthy journalist involved and in light of the Powell mini-scandal, everything he published remains accurate.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1056 on: August 25, 2018, 02:59:34 PM »
I don't know about the interview where Gottlieb was harsh towards McMurphy, but I do know of the one where Gottlieb nonstop praised McMurphy:

In any event, the list of things against McMurphy across these last few weeks has been:
  • He reported a felony arrest that the Powell PD says never happened (which we now know is only because they recently went back and edited the record)
  • and "ooooh, but like what are his motives, man"

The OSU investigation, presser, and now this news about the Powell PD have fully vindicated McMurphy. He was the most aggressive, consistent and trustworthy journalist involved and in light of the Powell mini-scandal, everything he published remains accurate.

I am laughing.  I can’t rven respond. This guy has been proven to be on a personal vendetta. 
Any one who would publish one side of a story and interview one person- the alleged victim- is not consistent or a journalist. Sorry. 
And his personal opinion tweets validate that. 
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1057 on: August 25, 2018, 03:45:28 PM »
I am laughing.  I can’t rven respond. This guy has been proven to be on a personal vendetta.
Any one who would publish one side of a story and interview one person- the alleged victim- is not consistent or a journalist. Sorry.
And his personal opinion tweets validate that.
How exactly has that been proven? It’s odd you think that’s proven but Meyer hasn’t been a proven liar. 
I would argue that McMurphy was simply reporting a story until Meyer obnoxiously showed him up in a press conference and tried to embarrass him in front of his peers.
You and I have seen eye to eye on so many topics for years, but we’re the sun and the moon on this one. Had to happen eventually.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1058 on: August 25, 2018, 03:53:55 PM »
McMurphy only published documents or interviews with people who provided their names. It's good to have the capacity to laugh, but don't pretend that one-sidedness is a crux that only you have avoided.
I mean ... of all reporters, you supported Snook instead. A voice box for Meyer who was not only one-sided in trying to absolve Zach Smith of blame but has also been the most contradicted and proven incorrect journalist in the telling of this story.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1059 on: August 25, 2018, 04:01:56 PM »
There's also room for another point, though I think most people misunderstand the difference between guilt and criminal guilt and find it unpopular:
So long as what is reported is true, objectivity as a standard is terribly overrated. Especially in stories where it is well documented that anyone has acted like Zach. Once it's established that a man has serially abused his wife, holding the publication until he that guy finally responds with "I didn't do it" or no comment is neither important nor is it an essential step of good journalism. 
Fact:
  • Zach's argument didn't get equal airtime because he was only willing to speak to friends
Conclusion:
  • This isn't a court. Good for the system. That his POV is underreported and that he's been fired is the least he deserves
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1060 on: August 25, 2018, 04:20:12 PM »
Inaccurate statements are a subset of Lies. A more accurate accessment maybe. Lies can take many forms, but I will stand by the first sentence.

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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1061 on: August 25, 2018, 04:20:55 PM »
Reporter became part of the story. 

After his  initial report, he had a counter punch released each time his targets ( Meyer, OSU) or anything or anyone supporting them, released a statement.

Yesterday he tweets that Meyers apology validates CS’ claims.

Lol.  Go ahead, defend that as a journalist.   I am not exaggerating when I say that makes me laugh.   Your anti Meyer bias glows brightly.  

You can’t say the same for me.  I would have fired the guy.  
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1062 on: August 25, 2018, 04:38:23 PM »
We are well past Meyer. The investigators learned more than enough to punish and he was punished. That's done now - with a bow on top and everything. In fact, aside from the subordinate we learned Zach had a sexual relationship with (who was then transfered), I'm pretty sure everything has a bow on it.
You sometimes act like you agree but other times switch and become strangely defensive as if Zach Smith got a raw deal. I'm jumping in to support McMurphy in a conversation that is McMurphy versus Zach and Snook. And of these, you appear to be preferring Zach and Snook.
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Re: Is Urby In Trouble Here?
« Reply #1063 on: August 25, 2018, 04:42:39 PM »
Reporter became part of the story.  
That's it?

After his  initial report, he had a counter punch released each time his targets ( Meyer, OSU) or anything or anyone supporting them, released a statement.  
When at first we were fooled to think Snook got some landmark scoop with Courtney's mom, you can sure as hell bet that it's relevant for McMurphy to go and have a nice interview with Courtney's mom where she contradicts that and shows text message documentation to support it:

Yesterday he tweets that Meyers apology validates CS’ claims.  
Why does that matter?
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