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Topic: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #99 on: October 06, 2019, 04:20:37 PM »
Let's line'em up and see:

Alabama - OSU - Holy cow, I'd side with OSU at this point.
UGA - Wisconsin - Another grown man fight, maybe Jake from State Farm would be the difference.
LSU - Penn State - I side with the Tigers over the Cougs
Florida - Michigan - 6-4 in double overtime, close game
Auburn - Iowa - Another defensive game, probably Auburn
A&M - Minnesota - No idea really, one hasn't player anyone and the other has

From there on, it's anyone's game between teams that are mediocre at best.  Rutger would probably lose to anyone.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #100 on: October 06, 2019, 04:30:41 PM »
The Cougs? 
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #101 on: October 06, 2019, 04:32:07 PM »
Yeah, that mountain lion thing, usually called a cougar.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #102 on: October 06, 2019, 04:57:21 PM »
all roads lead through Bama and Clemson. Those are going to be the teams you have to beat at the end....like always. ACC is horrendous but that just means Clemson will get a cakewalk to the playoff. Not really sure who the best conference is. I'd lean towards the SEC. Especially now that LSU has an offense.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #103 on: October 06, 2019, 07:07:40 PM »
Mack Brown almost went through Clemson

probably a fluke, but.........
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #104 on: October 06, 2019, 09:33:23 PM »
Clemson is getting a bump because of what it has done in the past.  Not really logical or even fair, but it's there nonetheless.  An evaluation system that didn't start with Clemson sitting at No. 1 wouldn't have them currently as a presumed top-2 playoff team.

I say that as a fan of a school that has gotten its share of consideration today because of past achievements.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #105 on: October 07, 2019, 12:36:24 AM »
So the MAC is beneath CUSA and the Sunbelt? Both of those conferences are almost entirely FCS call ups. 
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #106 on: October 07, 2019, 01:47:37 AM »
This is true of every playoff in every sport in every year, ever.  The "best team in the country" isn't going to lose to a 9-4 scrub.  If they do, they weren't the best.  Win the playoff games, earn the title.  Really simple stuff.
2016 Clemson lost to an 8-5 scrub, but was found to be the "best team in the country" thanks to the playoff.  The year before, champion Alabama lost to 10-3 Ole Miss.  The year before that, OSU lost to 7-6 VA Tech.




So........yeah.  The best team loses sometimes.  I say again, this isn't a democracy - everyone shouldn't get a trophy.  Make the playoff exclusive.
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #107 on: October 07, 2019, 08:33:41 AM »
Yeah, if rankings started "clean" in Week 6 or 8, Clemson would be about 8th.  Maybe.

Wisconsin has more impressive wins than does Clemson.

If Clemson keeps winning ugly and teams like Wisconsin keep winning pretty, the Committee might have an interesting first ranking.  Maybe.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #108 on: October 07, 2019, 12:31:56 PM »
doubtful
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #109 on: October 07, 2019, 12:35:22 PM »
One more close call and I think even the AP will drop Clemson quite a bit.  Their A&M win now looks so-so.

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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #110 on: October 07, 2019, 12:44:56 PM »
FSU?
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Re: Is the Big Ten top to bottom the 2nd best conference in America?
« Reply #111 on: October 07, 2019, 12:49:18 PM »
Man I thought A&M would be better than they are.  Their schedule is top heavy and their losses are mostly to teams that almost anyone might struggle against, but their showings against Auburn and Arkansas were worse than I would have expected.

I think Mond is getting some flack and to me he's actually performing better than I expected.  But the o-line is struggling and the receivers and backs just aren't good enough to overcome it.  Defensively they look about the same as ever, which isn't great.  

 

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