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Topic: Iowa (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game

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ELA

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Iowa (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« on: October 15, 2024, 11:38:34 AM »
Thus far not really any surprising results for MSU.  They've beaten the teams they are better than, lost to the teams they are worse than, by about the margin they should have.

Going to have to be much better up front on the defensive side of the ball, like they were against Boston College and the first half of the OSU game.  Oregon absolutely pummeled them up front, and if that happens again, oh boy.

MSU played well in Iowa City last year, losing on a late punt return, but I think Iowa is much better running the ball than they were a year ago.

Iowa 27, Michigan State 21
« Last Edit: October 19, 2024, 10:49:43 PM by ELA »

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2024, 11:51:28 AM »
I can see Iowa gradually wearing down MSU after a close first half.  MSU will put together some long drives but those drives will stall against Iowa's  bend but don't break defense.

One place Iowa has been vulnerable is giving up long TD passes if a speedy reciever sneaks past the safety.  If Iowa prevents that from happening,  then Iowa should win.

Iowa 20,  MSU 13

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2024, 10:55:11 AM »
MSU AD also sick of night games.

'Enough is enough': MSU AD tells Big Ten this recent run of night games is overkill
TONY PAUL The Detroit News

East Lansing ― Playing in prime time is really good exposure for college athletes and their university. It's cool. Then again, so is stuffing your face with Snickers and Skittles every Halloween.

Do that all the time, though, and it gets really old, really fast.

That is the position of Michigan State's athletic department, whose football team will play its fourth consecutive night game Saturday, at Spartan Stadium against Iowa. Then, next week's game at Michigan will be the Spartans' fifth straight night game, and their seventh of the season.

"I mean, I'm a fan of a few prime-time games, but I'll admit, I'm a fan, too," said Alan Haller, Michigan State's athletic director. "There's a lot that goes into, especially home night games. You've got people coming from at least a four-hour radius. That can be very, very long days. It's a challenge.

"It's something that I've had conversations with the (Big Ten) conference office about. One of the things that needs to be clear: People wonder how much input I have. I don't have much, if any."

Under TV terms signed years ago by then-athletic director Mark Hollis, and then re-upped by his successor, Bill Beekman, Michigan State is limited to five night games a season. However, that doesn't include its own scheduling moves ― like Haller moving the season opener against Florida Atlantic to Friday night, Aug. 30, because MSU fans have gotten used to that little Labor Day weekend tradition. Those limits also don't include out-of-conference scheduling, like the game at Boston College on Sept. 21.

So Michigan State was exposed to as many as five night games this season, and the Big Ten ― more accurately, its TV partners ― have given the Spartans the limit. A fifth Big Ten night game is set for Friday, Nov. 22, at home against Purdue. Haller said he has talked to the Big Ten, confirming that's it on the night games.

That means home games against Indiana (Nov. 2) and Rutgers (Nov. 30) and at Illinois (Nov. 16) will be day games, even though the kickoff times for those three games haven't been announced.

"It's not a complaint, because many of these games that are in prime time give student-athletes and our university to be on a national stage," Haller said. "But at some point, there is a desire to have some other opportunities, as well.

"I do want to play our fair share. However, let's make this thing, spread it out a little bit. Move to some other schools."

Michigan, for instance, has played two night games, its season opener against Fresno State and at Washington. The Michigan State game next week will be Michigan's third of the season.

As for it how affects the players directly, that's subjective. Michigan State head coach Jonathan Smith said it has more of an impact on the back end; the later the Saturday game ends, the later the team can get going on preparation for the next week's game the following day.

Several Michigan State players smiled this week when asked about all the night games.

"I'm just grateful to have an opportunity, really, to play," redshirt senior receiver Montorie Foster said. "I would love to play a little bit earlier, but, you know, that's the way the cards were dealt. So, we're playing at night."

Said junior defensive back Nikai Martinez: "I like the 3:30 games, because you're not rushed but you don't have to wait all day either. But the night games are always cool ... that's always a good experience to get a night game."

More night games just might be the new reality in college football, particularly in the Big Ten, which last year began its new television deal with Fox, NBC and CBS. That deal is worth $7 billion over the course of the contract, which runs through the 2029-30 season.

That deal, which also includes Big Ten Network (co-owned by Fox Sports) and Peacock (the streaming wing of NBC), could eventually be worth more than $80 million per year to the 16 members of the Big Ten Conference.

Ultimately, the networks are paying out the cash, so they're going to get the final say on who plays when. Haller said he's not about to call up the networks directly to complain, though he's made his feelings clear to the Big Ten.

"Every school has agreed on the deal, but at the end of the day, we asked for our conference to run some interference for us and help us out a little bit," said Haller, who played his college football back in the 1990s, when college football usually meant playing during the day. "At some point, enough is enough.

"I get it. But you gotta remember, I'm a fan, too."

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #3 on: October 17, 2024, 11:25:05 AM »
night games are MUCH better for recruit visits

so I'm told
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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2024, 12:10:58 PM »
Iowa 42  Michigan State 10
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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2024, 12:12:42 PM »
night games are MUCH better for recruit visits

so I'm told
Friday night games, not so much...

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2024, 02:17:27 PM »
At least most of those night games for MSU came before November.  The Friday night game on Nov 22 being the exception.  

Agree Friday night games in a cold climate in November are a bad idea.  Black Friday might be ok a Friday night game  but you might as well move those to the nearest indoor NFL stadium since most students went home for thanksgiving.  In fact I think it would be a great idea to move the Ind-Purdue game to Friday night every year and play the game at Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2024, 03:02:44 PM »
At least most of those night games for MSU came before November.  The Friday night game on Nov 22 being the exception. 

Agree Friday night games in a cold climate in November are a bad idea.  Black Friday might be ok a Friday night game  but you might as well move those to the nearest indoor NFL stadium since most students went home for thanksgiving.  In fact I think it would be a great idea to move the Ind-Purdue game to Friday night every year and play the game at Lucas Oil Stadium.
Yeah they played Black Friday in Ford Field last year, and it was mostly Penn State fans.  But yeah, it's not like those home games, even when MSU is good, and playing a good opponent, on Thanksgiving weekend are great.

I think 2015 vs. Penn State is the one and only time I recall it looking even somewhat full

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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2024, 03:09:33 PM »
Hawkeyes Husker black Friday games are always packed.   Regardless of time slot or stadium 
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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2024, 03:11:51 PM »
Hawkeyes Husker black Friday games are always packed.  Regardless of time slot or stadium
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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2024, 03:15:55 PM »
Deer season in Wisconsin starts the day after Thanksgiving. Students might not be around.

Definitely takes a toll on the environment in the stadium.
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Re: Iowa (2-1, 4-2) at Michigan State (1-2, 3-3) Game Week
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2024, 10:34:42 PM »
Iowa 42  Michigan State 10
Nailed it

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Re: Iowa (2-2, 4-3) at Michigan State (2-2, 4-3) Post Game
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2024, 12:18:49 PM »
Didn't see that coming. Kudos to MSU.

Chiles looked really good. I thought Iowa would control him.
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