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Topic: Iowa's offensive offense

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medinabuckeye1

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Iowa's offensive offense
« on: September 14, 2022, 12:28:11 PM »
According to wiki (I know) Iowa's OC Brian Ferentz doesn't technically report to HC Kirk Ferentz but rather to Iowa's longtime AD Gary Barta.

Apparently this legal sleight-of-hand had to be employed due to the State of Iowa's anti-nepotism statute.

Frankly, at this point the Brian Ferentz situation is pretty much a textbook example of why Iowa and most (perhaps all) States have laws prohibiting public employees from hiring close family members.

Iowa's offense isn't merely bad, it is comically awful. They are literally last in the nation in ypg and nearly 80 ypg behind the next worst team. They are also dead last in ppg. Even that probably understates the scale if Iowa's offensive struggles because the two scoring drives that Iowa's offense managed to mount so far this year were a 5 yard FG drive and a 16 yard TD drive. Their other four points came from safeties so effectively the Iowa Defense is responsible for all 14 of Iowa's points so far this year.

At what point does Barta tell his HC that said HC's son will no longer be employed by the University of Iowa?

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2022, 12:56:55 PM »
Hopefully not for awhile.  Now that Frost has been fired, we need to find comic relief elsewhere.  This looks like a good place.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2022, 01:37:55 PM »
Brian Ferentz may officially report to Barta, but the idea that Barta has the power to fire Brian Ferentz is laughable.  Barta is not going to do anything that Kirk Ferentz does not  want.  The only thing Barta has a say in is how much the assistants get paid, but even there Barta pretty much does what Kirk tells him to do.

If Barta ever threatened to fire Brian, all Kirk would have to do is threaten to retire and that would be the end of the discussion.  Maybe if Iowa goes 5-7 this year,  Barta might have the leverage he needs to fire Brian.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2022, 01:54:46 PM »
when you are that bad, it has to be a recruiting issue as well and not just a coaching one. Iowa's QB and skill talent seem to be seriously lacking. That's putting it nicely. Iowa doesn't always have elite skill talent, but they usually have way better skill talent than this.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2022, 02:46:02 PM »
If Barta ever threatened to fire Brian, all Kirk would have to do is threaten to retire and that would be the end of the discussion.  Maybe if Iowa goes 5-7 this year,  Barta might have the leverage he needs to fire Brian.
At some point that becomes a risk worth taking. At some point Barta (or maybe his superiors) need to make the decision that if Kirk decides to make it a choice between two Ferentz and zero Ferentz they are willing to call that bluff.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2022, 02:54:33 PM »
Does the buyout go away if Kirk resigns?

If so... bring it.
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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2022, 03:05:28 PM »
Does the buyout go away if Kirk resigns?

If so... bring it.
Agreed, at some point it is time.

I say this realizing what Kirk Ferentz has done for Iowa and that he is not only the longest tenured HFC in the B1G but nationally as well.

It would be different if Iowa's offense was merely poor but at this point poor would be a substantial upgrade.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2022, 03:20:35 PM »
confess I have not watched a lot of Iowa this season
is the issues schematic or lack of players>?  the QB seems to be awful  

they are the only team not using the transfer portal much does that have anything to do the lack luster?

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2022, 04:47:05 PM »
They lost receivers - probably due to the offense they were in.
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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2022, 06:02:07 PM »
Does the buyout go away if Kirk resigns?

If so... bring it.
Only if he agrees do it. 

… which no one would. 

medinabuckeye1

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2022, 06:33:58 PM »
Only if he agrees do it.

… which no one would.
Legally Brian Ferentz works for Barta not Kirk so Barta can fire him. At that point Kirk Ferentz' only recourse would be to resign in protest. The resignation would obviate the buyout. 

The above is my understanding and *COULD* be wrong.

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2022, 06:58:12 PM »
I like your understanding the guy has milked the school & state for more than he could have possibly hoped for.If he is that punch drunk or stubborn he can't see the obvious problem well I hope brian gets the axe before I'm done typing this
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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2022, 07:08:16 PM »
confess I have not watched a lot of Iowa this season
is the issues schematic or lack of players>?  the QB seems to be awful 

they are the only team not using the transfer portal much does that have anything to do the lack luster?
Lucky you, trying to watch an Iowa game is worse than watching paint dry.  At least the safeties and blocked punts are kind of exciting

Anway if you need a better example of is it lack of skill or is schematic,  all you have to do is look at WR Charlie Jones.  Look at what he did at Iowa vs what he is doing after he transferred to Purdue this year.

The main problem is the schematic drives away good WR's.  

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Re: Iowa's offensive offense
« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2022, 07:21:40 PM »
At what point does Barta tell his HC that said HC's son will no longer be employed by the University of Iowa?
A competent athletic director would have confronted Brian Ferentz in January 2022, and told him, you are out. Brian Ferentz is also a defendant in a lawsuit filed by former players. How much longer can you double down and triple down on such incompetence?
B.F. was given the job of QB coach this year, in addition to Offensive Coordinator. B.F. was a center, and he was a good one. He knows a lot about how the offensive line works. He obviously knows nothing about quarterbacking.

The main problem is the schematic drives away good WR's.
WRs Charlie Jones and Tyrone Tracy both left Iowa for Purdue. “It’s pretty simple, I came here for the offense,” Jones said to GoldandBlack.com, which is the Rivals site for Purdue. “The past couple years they’ve shown that being a receiver in this type of offense means a lot of opportunities.” Charlie Jones explains why he transferred from Iowa to Purdue - Hawk Fanatic Jones knew the limitations of the Iowa offense and its QBs.



 

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