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Topic: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #42 on: May 11, 2021, 01:32:52 PM »
hah, that's the issue

Ohio St. should have the same issue and a few fans are upset that they don't

hah!
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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #43 on: May 11, 2021, 02:01:07 PM »
Processing has been a term for a while. OSU bad Michigan have been accused of it at different points. As has much of the SEC. Badger fans have jokingly called it Creaning or getting Buzz Cut to mock Marquette. I think Marquette fans called it getting BOned when UW did it at points.

I’m sure every school does it to a degree, with different levels of touch. I’m somewhat doubting that Bama is doing it to some kind of extreme degree, and if they are, the kids aren’t talking about it.
processing does sound much better than "over Signing"
Is the term "processing" derived from Bama specifically? After all, Saban is all about "the process"? 

I've heard of Creaning--we got a few good years out of that at Purdue before he got canned at IU. 

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #44 on: May 11, 2021, 02:08:32 PM »
Is the term "processing" derived from Bama specifically? After all, Saban is all about "the process"?

I've heard of Creaning--we got a few good years out of that at Purdue before he got canned at IU.
I wouldn’t think so. I thought it was just a get Atl term. Like you oversigned back in the day, then processed people out. 

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #45 on: May 11, 2021, 02:09:50 PM »
If i'm an athlete signing with a big football program, I assume I'm getting axed if I don't earn my scholarship.  I don't want to be there if my HC doesn't think I can help the team.  

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #46 on: May 11, 2021, 02:25:57 PM »
like clockwork.

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #47 on: May 11, 2021, 02:30:22 PM »
I think the realistic takeaway from whatever Alabama is doing is that many/most people figured no program could hord all the talent, because those players don't want to be backups or whatever.  Looks like that isn't true.

Most seem to have supreme confidence they'll get on the field at Alabama.
Most seem to be willing to wait their turn if that's the situation.

The risk of not being good enough seems to be outweighed by the reward of being good enough and getting to the NFL.  If Alabama's oversigning or processing or whatever you want to call it was a problem, it would affect their recruiting.  It hasn't.  So it's not.  Period.

Anyone whining about it is simply jealous.  If anyone should be whining, it's me.  It affects Florida a helluva lot more than it does any B1G program.  
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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #48 on: May 11, 2021, 02:43:07 PM »
I think it possible to take note of an set of facts and discuss it without any whining, which is mostly what I'm seeing here.

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #49 on: May 11, 2021, 02:45:02 PM »
except for MrNubbz

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #50 on: May 11, 2021, 03:18:58 PM »
Anyone whining about it is simply jealous.  If anyone should be whining, it's me.  It affects Florida a helluva lot more than it does any B1G program. 
That's why I'm not that worried about it...

...none of these recruits are picking between Alabama and Purdue and so Purdue is "missing out". They weren't headed to West Lafayette to begin with.

In fact, it might even sometimes help a team like Purdue. If we have a position of need for an Alabama backup who will never see the field in Tuscaloosa, they can transfer to Purdue and be a bigger superstar than anyone we've got on our roster. I'll take Bama's sloppy seconds in an instant lol...

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #51 on: May 11, 2021, 03:28:23 PM »
In fact, it might even sometimes help a team like Purdue. If we have a position of need for an Alabama backup who will never see the field in Tuscaloosa, they can transfer to Purdue and be a bigger superstar than anyone we've got on our roster. I'll take Bama's sloppy seconds in an instant lol...
That's what I just posted above.  MSU just got a transfer today from Alabama who was running with the 2s.  I'd be shocked if he's not starting Day 1 in East Lansing.  That's a business decision for him, works out well for MSU, and Alabama has an open space for a higher ceiling freshman, than a 4th year sophomore.

I think the only place it hurts the non-helmet P5 schools is at quarterback.  Only one of those guys is going to play, and it seems like you aren't going to keep a QB on campus for more than 2 years without starting.  The helmet schools can get by on their starter and a 5* 1st or 2nd year backup.  The Go5 schools are getting all of these P5 transfers who are getting impatient.  But the other P5 schools are going to continue to be VERY thin behind their starter, if you can't keep guys in the pipeline.

Now, as a fan, in general, I don't like the transfer portal for a number of reasons.  But if it's there, I don't see a problem with how Alabama is treating it.  Hell, it was a bigger problem pre-transfer portal, when guys had limited options

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2021, 04:49:48 PM »
a lot of these kids are leaving for things completely unrelated to football. i'd say at least half, if not more. just looking back to the 2017 and 2018 recruiting classes, 9 left in total (not counting nfl draft, graduates, or still enrolled) - 3 left because they were from the west coast and had a culture shock/depression and left before end of their first year on campus, 1 was kick out due to crime, 1 never enrolled and went juco. so that's 5 of the 9 for non-football reasons. 1 qb left being behind hurts, tua and mac, 1 wr left (same class as jeudy, ruggs and smith), 1 kicker that started 2 years and was beat out by frosh and then left, and 1 lb was suspended from team (undisclosed) and then left, which likely isn't football reason but i'll leave it here anyway since we don't know.

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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #53 on: May 11, 2021, 04:55:29 PM »
except for MrNubbz

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I just quoted it appears the Tide landed and average of 4 more per cycle according to the numbers presented.Obviously someone wasn't in the same math class as Lawrence Phillips
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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #54 on: May 11, 2021, 05:01:06 PM »
I would run that by Drew before I made that statement.
That was quoted/directed at someone who doesn't mind pissing in the punch bowl
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Re: Intersting takes on BAMA player processing
« Reply #55 on: May 11, 2021, 05:01:23 PM »
you don't have to get violent! 
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