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FearlessF · « **Reply #70 on:** August 14, 2019, 10:47:59 AM »

sweet, thanks

when I bought snow tires I simply checked dia

CWSooner · « **Reply #71 on:** August 14, 2019, 05:48:07 PM »

Quote from: bwarbiany on August 13, 2019, 05:42:10 PM

Been there. Buddy was a pilot and we went up in a 152 once on a very windy day. Held it just shy of stall against the stiff wind. I think we had negative ground speed.

I once read a story from the days of post-WWI barnstorming. A guy in a Curtiss JN-4 Jenny trying to drum up a crowd flew over a small town with a little airstrip, to which he had sent his ground support truck, nearby. The Jenny cruised at 52 knots. Stall speed was something like 20-25 knots. So he pulled into a stiff wind over the town and throttled back to zero groundspeed. After a crowd gathered, he dropped a weighted note to the crowd telling them that he needed help because his elevator was stuck. There was nothing the people on the ground could do, of course, but the crowd grew.
After a bit, he increased throttle and flew slowly to the airstrip. The crowd followed to the airstrip, he got his mechanic to quickly "fix the problem," and refuel the airplane. He then he sold rides to everyone who would pay the $5.00 (or whatever) fee.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #72 on:** August 14, 2019, 06:10:05 PM »

The unusual thing about flying as slow as possible in one of these planes is that you do it at full throttle, which perhaps also is counterintuitive.

CWSooner · « **Reply #73 on:** August 14, 2019, 06:18:55 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 14, 2019, 06:10:05 PM

The unusual thing about flying as slow as possible in one of these planes is that you do it at full throttle, which perhaps also is counterintuitive.

I've only got a couple of hours in fixed-wing aircraft, but I'm guessing that you'd use full throttle and also full flaps, yes?
The JN-4 had no flaps. I don't think flaps had been invented yet. With a Jenny, in that situation, you would throttle back to minimum airspeed required to maintain altitude.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #74 on:** August 14, 2019, 09:53:34 PM »

Yup, full flaps nose in the air, full power steer with the rudder. Air speed under 40.

CWSooner · « **Reply #75 on:** August 14, 2019, 10:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 14, 2019, 09:53:34 PM

Yup, full flaps nose in the air, full power steer with the rudder. Air speed under 40.

That sounds disconcerting. Something like hovering a helicopter at 10,000 feet with the ground about 9500 feet below you.
I flew an Apache at 10,000 feet over Big Bend National Park, and even at 120 knots it felt like we were standing still.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #76 on:** August 15, 2019, 06:19:06 AM »

It's actually kind of fun, obviously at 4,000 feet AGL though. It's something you do in training to get a feel for the airplane right at stall. It's probably nose up at about 20°, feels like more.

CWSooner · « **Reply #77 on:** August 15, 2019, 01:11:49 PM »

Speaking of your dead-stick landing, I never thought about how it got its name till I saw something by the History Guy on Youtube the other day.

Per the Font of All Wisdom and Knowledge:

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A deadstick landing, also called a dead-stick landing, is a type of forced landing when an aircraft loses all of its propulsive power and is forced to land. The "stick" does not refer to the flight controls, which in most aircraft are either fully or partially functional without engine power, but to the traditional wooden propeller, which without power would just be a "dead stick".

Cincydawg · « **Reply #78 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:06:20 AM »

I did not know that, also assumed it meant the control stick.

Huh.

Yeah, it was dead in my case, after 15 minutes or so of running rough and losing power. I was down to 1000 feet AGL at the end. I turned to the field on my left and had to clear some power lines first and then I had to really lose altitude fast so I dropped the flaps and put the nose down, kind of like a short field landing. I was probably doing 75 knots when I touched down and the field was muddy there in the middle and I couldn't brake. There was an elevated dirt road looming but the field dried out enough to where I could brake and then turn at the end to avoid the road.

I couldn't raise Dayton on the ground, so I shut it down and we got out, and then a plane from Richmond airport flew over us, I recognized it, it was the 182 they used for jumping, had the door out. So, I got back on the radio and told him we were fine, could they send a truck. I had no clue where we were on the ground, couldn't see anything. In about 5 minutes this red truck comes bouncing over the field and the guy rolls down his window and asks if we're OK and I say yes and he tears off away from us. In another 5 minutes, the cavalry arrives, 2 sheriff's cars, a firetruck, and an ambulance, bouncing over this field at high speed. I thought they were going to run us down. The firemen were terribly disappointed there was no fire. The paramedics wanted to check us out, but I declined so they were bummed out.

Then in about another 30 minutes the news vans arrived, two from Dayton. TBC.

FearlessF · « **Reply #79 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:26:16 AM »

this poor dirt farmer lives a boring life

utee94 · « **Reply #80 on:** August 16, 2019, 09:45:21 AM »

I loathe flying and would certainly never willingly get in a plane "for fun."

However, I like traveling to distant locations, so flying is a necessary evil for me.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #81 on:** August 16, 2019, 11:30:32 AM »

So, I'm sitting in the sheriffs car, and it's a lady and she is quite attractive despite wearing body armor, and the news vans pull up. She told me I could talk or not, and I said I would, I wanted to thank the controller in Dayton, and did. The lead in to the 11 PM news was "Excitement in the skies over Richmond" and then a commercial.

I go back to the nice lady sheriff and we're chatting about what needs to be done and I say for her to contact the NTSB. We go through that for a bit and she says "What do you want to do with the plane?" and then suggests calling a tow company, which arrives as I noted before. We spent over an hour going about 2 miles to the airport. They had two guys with poles pushing branches out of the way and ensuring we could clear electrical lines. Meanwhile, the boy was supposed to go to his mom's for dinner as it was her weekend, so I get patched through and get her answering machine and leave a message that I had to make a "precautionary landing" at Richmond and could she come pick us up. A bit later she calls the number I left which was the sheriff's office and the dispatcher says "Oh, you mean the guy who landed in the soy bean field?" so the ex goes ballistic for a bit. I had to tell the lad to quit laughing, he thought this was great fun now.

We get to the airport and drop the plane (I mentioned the tow bill came to $200 somehow) and are waiting and the boy sees posters for sky diving and asks me if he can do that next weekend. I demurred. The ex picks us up, drops me off at my house, and has her dinner with the other kids, I missed the news, but my kids saw it.

The lady Sheriff gave me her phone number but I never called her about anything. She really was good looking and professional to boot. Missed op.

utee94 · « **Reply #82 on:** August 16, 2019, 11:44:01 AM »

Quote from: Cincydawg on August 16, 2019, 11:30:32 AM

So, I'm sitting in the sheriffs car, and it's a lady and she is quite attractive despite wearing body armor, and the news vans pull up. She told me I could talk or not, and I said I would, I wanted to thank the controller in Dayton, and did. The lead in to the 11 PM news was "Excitement in the skies over Richmond" and then a commercial.

I go back to the nice lady sheriff and we're chatting about what needs to be done and I say for her to contact the NTSB. We go through that for a bit and she says "What do you want to do with the plane?" and then suggests calling a tow company, which arrives as I noted before. We spent over an hour going about 2 miles to the airport. They had two guys with poles pushing branches out of the way and ensuring we could clear electrical lines. Meanwhile, the boy was supposed to go to his mom's for dinner as it was her weekend, so I get patched through and get her answering machine and leave a message that I had to make a "precautionary landing" at Richmond and could she come pick us up. A bit later she calls the number I left which was the sheriff's office and the dispatcher says "Oh, you mean the guy who landed in the soy bean field?" so the ex goes ballistic for a bit. I had to tell the lad to quit laughing, he thought this was great fun now.

We get to the airport and drop the plane (I mentioned the tow bill came to $200 somehow) and are waiting and the boy sees posters for sky diving and asks me if he can do that next weekend. I demurred. The ex picks us up, drops me off at my house, and has her dinner with the other kids, I missed the news, but my kids saw it.

The lady Sheriff gave me her phone number but I never called her about anything. She really was good looking and professional to boot. Missed op.

Not quite a Hooky Hornstein level story, but it'll do.

Cincydawg · « **Reply #83 on:** August 16, 2019, 11:45:40 AM »

Well, nobody posts at the HH level of posting. TO be anywhere close is a high compliment.

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