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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46634 on: July 08, 2025, 09:01:57 PM »
I'm all for fewer bean counters and fewer lawyers
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46635 on: July 08, 2025, 09:15:44 PM »
I'm all for fewer bean counters and fewer lawyers
Hey watch it

some of us been counters are really nice guys
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46636 on: July 08, 2025, 10:07:42 PM »
I just said, fewer
I'm all for keeping the nice ones
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I can't really envision a simple tax code for corporations.

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because they like their write offs and deductions and such?
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I'm sure they like write offs, but many kinds strike me as inherent and necessary, not all, but many.

Corporations often spend money in hopes of making more money later, capital improvements, hiring, etc.  Is that kind of thing an expense or what?  A for profit company has EBITA (earnings before income tax) and then after tax earnings, which generally differ by a factor of 2 or more.  Currently, if they build a new factory they can write off the entire expense.  In the past, that write off has been amortized over several years.

Then there is the "R&D tax credit", which gets gamed in the US, but at least supports companies doing "R&D", which the government views as a good thing.  Then there are SALT for corporations which are treated as expenses.  The list is longer than I have any idea about.

I think any sudden change would cause disruptions, maybe it would end being OK, I don't know, it's beyond my PG.

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OK, you can envision a simple tax code, you just can't envision making it happen
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Yeah, I think it would be massively disruptive to go to no deductions.  Is it possible over time?  Maybe.  Will it ever happen?  Nope.

The tax code is how Congress gets "us" to do stuff they want us to do, same with corporations.

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a flatter simpler tax like a large sales tax

buy a fancy automobile, a big ass boat, a huge house on 45 acres, a steak dinner & drinks at the most fancy place in the city, tickets to the symphony or the opera
heck, buy a $9000 humidor and fill it with $40 cigars, or fill your wine cellar with the good stuff

Pay the tax
This too would be rightly viewed as regressive because the poor obviously spend a MUCH larger percentage of their income on necessities.  

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well, some things like food do not have sales tax
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well, some things like food do not have sales tax
Depends on what state you're in.
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well, some things like food do not have sales tax
Well . . .
Depends on what state you're in.
And this is where the complications start creeping back in.  

In Ohio unprepared foods (think groceries) do NOT have sales tax but prepared foods (think restaurant) DO have sales tax.  Then there end up needing to be all kinds of regulations on what constitutes prepared vs unprepared.  

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Yep. Groceries are exempt here, but restaurants tax 6% on the bill.
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encouraging folks to eat groceries and not McDonalds is good
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