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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Mdot21

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46536 on: July 08, 2025, 10:38:57 AM »
Quote from: ELA on July 07, 2025, 01:54:06 PM

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1942119635341754538
Elon has to be feeling buyers remorse right about now. I'd want my $300 million back if I was him lol. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46537 on: July 08, 2025, 11:48:50 AM »
I guess folks don't agree with the history of Hauser's Rule.  Maybe the graphs I showed were fabricated?  I don't think they were.

One can make up graphs, or look at historical precedent, when it is clearly on point.  I prefer the latter.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46538 on: July 08, 2025, 12:02:17 PM »
Your graph is a theory and there's no agreed upon goldilocks %.  It ranges from around 30% to 70%.  You treat it like a discussion-ender, when it's anything but.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46539 on: July 08, 2025, 12:07:27 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on July 08, 2025, 10:16:24 AM
Well it's Utopia so of course they have completely open, unrestricted immigration!

Well...
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46540 on: July 08, 2025, 12:12:19 PM »
Maybe folks skipped over all the discussion about this historical graph:



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46541 on: July 08, 2025, 12:18:25 PM »
Yes, that's why I advocated for fixing convoluted and possibly broken system and specifying a paradigm shift is needed.  

Shrugging and saying "this is how it's always been" is a great way to make sure it never changes.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46542 on: July 08, 2025, 12:20:22 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 08, 2025, 12:18:25 PM
Yes, that's why I advocated for fixing convoluted and possibly broken system and specifying a paradigm shift is needed. 
I'm all for it, what are your ideas?
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46543 on: July 08, 2025, 12:23:49 PM »
I have no desire to set up targets for you to shoot down.  Pass.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46544 on: July 08, 2025, 12:24:08 PM »
This pretty clearly  highlights THE problem:

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46545 on: July 08, 2025, 12:25:06 PM »
Quote from: OrangeAfroMan on July 08, 2025, 12:23:49 PM
I have no desire to set up targets for you to shoot down.  Pass.
So, you are shrugging and saying "That's how it's always been."

Folks learn things by discussing them, throwing out possible approaches to problems and then considering possible deficiencies.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46546 on: July 08, 2025, 12:26:41 PM »
Tax the rich.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46547 on: July 08, 2025, 12:26:57 PM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46548 on: July 08, 2025, 12:27:11 PM »
Quote from: Cincydawg on July 08, 2025, 12:25:06 PM
So, you are shrugging and saying "That's how it's always been."

Folks learn things by discussing them, throwing out possible approaches to problems and then considering possible deficiencies.
Wow you still found a target.  Kudos.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #46549 on: July 08, 2025, 12:28:35 PM »
Any steps towards making the quality of tax attorney irrelevant would be a good start.  Simple, specific tax language with no wiggle room or space for bullshit would be nice.
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