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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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FearlessF

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I'm not buying that
"Courage; Generosity; Fairness; Honor; In these are the true awards of manly sport."

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Utopia is across the Atlantic. One can always move there, if they let you in.
U RAH RAH! WIS CON SIN!

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Utopia is across the Atlantic. One can always move there, if they let you in.
Wouldn't they say the same thing? lol
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Utopia is across the Atlantic. One can always move there, if they let you in.
Well it's Utopia so of course they have completely open, unrestricted immigration!

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The longer it goes, the more and more skeptical I am of there being much there there with Epstein.

A suicide makes plenty of sense. No one has been able to pin anything grotesque on their opponents. Everyone talks big and when they get access, they sheepishly work around there not being much there.
this strikes me as the musings of someone who knows very little about the topic at hand.

Jeffrey Epstein was full-stop, 1000% an intelligence access asset- I would bet mine and every person on this boards life on it. His connections and background all point to Mossad and the fact that he was given an absolutely fucking insane completely unheard of in history NPA deal in 2008 by Alex Acosta at DOJ- which Acosta later said on record he only gave said deal because he was told Epstein and I quote "belonged to intelligence" suggests CIA was in on the jig. All of Acosta's incoming emails at DOJ in the 11 month window he was handling the Epstein case by the way miraculously disappeared and are poof....gone forever....lol. What a coincidence! Just like the guards falling asleep and the cameras having issues in the most secure prison in NYC...lol. Damn.

Never mind the actual details of the suicide are sketchy. Dr. Michael Baden a world renowned forensic pathologist- who has reviewed over a thousand jail hanging suicide cases in NYC prisons over the last 50 years says he has never found a single case in which there were 3 fractures in a victims neck- two to thyroid cartilage and one to the hyoid bone. Baden says hyoid bone fracture is more consistent with strangulation- and to have one fracture is rare but can occur in hanging, to have two is extremely rare, and to have three is beyond rare are basically impossible/unheard of. Not to mention the ligature mark from the supposed noose was at the base of the neck- not near the top of the neck angled up into the jaw. Not to mention there was no blood found on the supposed noose but there was blood on the neck. Baden concluded all of this adds up to a strangulation, not hanging. But hey, what would he know? He's just one of the most famous forensic pathologists in the world- and all of these coincidences surrounding Jeffrey Epstein are just that, right- coincidences.

Newsflash: there was never going to be anything grotesque to pin on one side or one opponent, because the operation infiltrated both sides of the aisle and implicates the very most powerful and elite people in US society. Much of the evidence had already been destroyed and this thing is being cleaned up and swept under the rug to not only protect the powerful implicated but more importantly to protect the institutions aka intelligence agencies and to protect US special relationship with it's supposed-to-be-vassal but in reality it's master, Israel.

Add all of this up and throw in Trump's connections to Epstein (the guy is on audio tape saying he and Donald used to be best friends for nearly a decade and Trump is on his flight logs at least 7 times) - none of this shit was ever going to see the light of day. This is what you would call, a cover up.
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1942119635341754538

Elon has to be feeling buyers remorse right about now. I'd want my $300 million back if I was him lol. 

Cincydawg

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I guess folks don't agree with the history of Hauser's Rule.  Maybe the graphs I showed were fabricated?  I don't think they were.

One can make up graphs, or look at historical precedent, when it is clearly on point.  I prefer the latter.


OrangeAfroMan

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Your graph is a theory and there's no agreed upon goldilocks %.  It ranges from around 30% to 70%.  You treat it like a discussion-ender, when it's anything but.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

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Well it's Utopia so of course they have completely open, unrestricted immigration!

Well...
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Cincydawg

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Maybe folks skipped over all the discussion about this historical graph:




OrangeAfroMan

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Yes, that's why I advocated for fixing convoluted and possibly broken system and specifying a paradigm shift is needed.  

Shrugging and saying "this is how it's always been" is a great way to make sure it never changes.
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Cincydawg

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Yes, that's why I advocated for fixing convoluted and possibly broken system and specifying a paradigm shift is needed. 
I'm all for it, what are your ideas?

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I have no desire to set up targets for you to shoot down.  Pass.
“The Swamp is where Gators live.  We feel comfortable there, but we hope our opponents feel tentative. A swamp is hot and sticky and can be dangerous." - Steve Spurrier

Cincydawg

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This pretty clearly  highlights THE problem:


 

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