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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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I have a dream.......
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Statewide ban against all "communication devices" in Texas public schools.  No smartphones, no iPads, no Apple watches, etc.  My kids use their iPads to take notes alongside their school-issued laptops, and we often times need to communicate with them during a schoolday regarding doctor visits, plans for transportation, and whatnot.

This is a solution that went in search of a problem.  It's true that these devices can be a distraction in the classroom, but our kids' schools have all managed it in a very satisfactory way.  Some teachers don't worry about it at all, they don't find it to be an issue, and other teachers simply take them away if it ever becomes an issue.  There was absolutely no need for a comprehensive, heavy-handed state law regarding the matter.


I should’ve amended my phrasing. It was imprecise. I should’ve said most work by the state legislature doesn’t have an effect on the daily lives of most people. It does in small scale ways.

Also, as an oft slagged on millennial, I have to admit I find this plight amusing in a certain light, though I am sorry for your inconvenience.

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Here in GA, the state is running a surplus so they are supposed to give us back $500.  I guess that's OK, though I could think of some things I'd spend more state tax money on, like say state parks, that might be useful and productive.

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There was absolutely no need for a comprehensive, heavy-handed state law regarding the matter.


Funny how the party once hell-bent against such acts is now doing it whenever it pleases.
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what's the ROI on money sent to state parks?
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I should’ve amended my phrasing. It was imprecise. I should’ve said most work by the state legislature doesn’t have an effect on the daily lives of most people. It does in small scale ways.
I still don't agree.  This one law will affect millions of people statewide.  That's just one example that I could immediately recall, there are dozens and likely hundreds of others that have been passed (or repealed) within the last few years alone.

Another that immediately comes to mind is that the state legislature worked all session to develop a new hemp/THC/CBD ban, to roll back some legislation passed a few years ago which allowed some limited sales/distribution of these products here in the state.  I don't partake of the hippie lettuce but the law from several years ago certainly affected the lives of hundreds of thousands and probably millions of Texans, and the subsequent potential repeal of it would also affect hundreds of thousands and probably millions of people.  Luckily for all the stoners, the very-Republican governor vetoed the bill in a surprise move.  But now they're coming back for special session and it's almost certain that some form of repeal will get passed.

Those are just two recent examples.  State governments have broad powers to affect daily lives in so many ways.
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I would personally vote against my own self interest if I thought it was more beneficial to other folks.
Yeah?  Especially when it's financial and the benefactors are the 0.1%.  
Got it.
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what's the ROI on money sent to state parks?
I don't know, I suspect it's probably positive, or nearly so.  Some of our state parks have been upgraded but many have not and they are getting to be tired.

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Yeah?  Especially when it's financial and the benefactors are the 0.1%. 
Got it.
That obviously is not at all my meaning.  I support some policies that cost me money but help other people who need it.  I pay quite a lot in property tax for example and support most of the things it gets spent on.

Ergo, I will vote against my interests, at least in theory.  I did vote last election just to see how it all works here.


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Then you're not in the 'duped' population, friend.
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Also, as an oft slagged on millennial, I have to admit I find this plight amusing in a certain light, though I am sorry for your inconvenience.
You have no say in my "inconvenience" and it's condescending AF for you to even mention it.  You don't get to decide how I should live my life or how things affect me and my family, only I get to decide that.  For a "liberal" you certainly sometimes come off as very close-minded and judgmental.

Regardless, the severity of impact isn't even at issue here.  You asserted that state governments don't really impact daily lives and I've now provided two clear examples where it does.  They were easy to come up with and there are dozens more.  The very concept of federalism allows, and even insists, that this be true.

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I'd opine that USUALLY a state legislature has its session, stuff gets done, and few people notice any difference.  That is true for Congress as well for long stretches.

They do get to rename post offices etc.

I think out lives are more often impacted by things other than government than by some change in the laws, there clearly are exceptions.  

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The State government impacted us negatively in Illinois.

Our last year there we paid $65K in State and Local taxes (not including sales tax).

We now pay ~$4K in State and Local taxes (not including sales tax).

Florida is good.
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Sure, I was referring to changes in law and policies by the states, not that policies are good or bad in general.  USUALLY, the changes in a year go without much notice.

And I'm sure I could pay quite a bit less in tax by living somewhere else.  

 

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