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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45724 on: June 23, 2025, 01:27:39 PM »
Oh boy.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45725 on: June 23, 2025, 01:34:54 PM »
Oh boy.
Sounds like they coordinated with Qatar and let them know ahead of time so that civilians could be warned and evacuated if necessary.  Same as last time, these are all moves to save face.  Hopefully Trump can leave it at that.  I guess we'll see.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45726 on: June 23, 2025, 01:40:49 PM »
The financial markets are betting this won't escalate further, though the Israeli-Iranian conflict will continue.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45727 on: June 23, 2025, 01:43:10 PM »
The only way this escalates is if Russia gets involved. 

But Russia has a lot of fish to fry already, with their own forever war. 

They too learned nothing from their Afghanistan fiasco.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45729 on: June 23, 2025, 01:46:17 PM »
Oil prices fell Monday as investors breathed a sigh of relief after a missile strike by Iran on a U.S. airbase in Qatar did not cause any casualties.  
U.S. crude oil fell $3.88, or 5.25%, to $69.96 per barrel by 1:39 p.m. ET. Global benchmark Brent was last down $4.04, or 5.25%, at $72.97.

Iran’s armed forces said they launched a missile strike at the Al-Udeid Air Base in Qatar where U.S. forces are stationed, according to an NBC News translation of Iranian state TV. The White House and Defense Department were closely monitoring potential threats to the base, a senior White House official told NBC News Monday afternoon.
Qatar subsequently confirmed that the strike did not cause any casualties, a spokesperson for the country’s foreign affairs ministry said in a post on social media.
Both benchmarks were well off their highs seen overnight after the U.S. bombed three key nuclear sites in Iran over the weekend. Brent had jumped more than 5% Sunday evening to crack $81 before easing. WTI also reached its highest levels since January before pulling back.



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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45730 on: June 23, 2025, 02:17:24 PM »
Fox News is an insane propaganda racket and joke, but I'm sure everyone here already knew that.

They have been constantly having the son of the deceased deposed War Lord Dictator of Iran on their airwaves acting like anyone in that country is actually yearning for the fail-son of a long dead deposed dictator back and are referring to him as your royal highness- which ironically wasn't even the correct title of his father- it was your imperial highness. LOL.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45731 on: June 23, 2025, 02:32:45 PM »
When the US took out Sulemani, Iran countered by lobbing some missiles at the base in Iran, and that ended it.

Iran has its hands more than full with just Israel.  My GUESS is they are repeating what they did last time, for show.

I may be too optimistic though.
yeah, no. this is way different. they drone struck and assassinated Solemani in Iraq while he was on a diplomatic mission (an outrage to be honest but nowhere near as crazy as this)- not within Iranian soil, and it was one attack with a drone, not multiple bombing runs with US stealth bombers from halfway around the world at 3 different sites within Iranian soil.

And Iran was not simultaneously in a direct hot war with a wholly funded & armed US proxy (Israel) at the time when Trump bombed Solemani and they did not give US warning to stay out like they have done now. Which that warning is bullshit anyway as US was already deeply involved with helping Israel carry out this war both offensively & defensively.

Israel has had it's hands full running operations in Gaza, Lebanon, and Syria simultaneously- now they just started a war with Iran. They are incapable of dealing with Iran for much longer. Their missile defense systems are insanely expensive and not that effective whereas Iranian missiles & drones are orders of magnitude cheaper than Israeli missile defense systems- they don't care if they sacrifice shitty old missiles or cheap drones to get their newer stuff through and hit targets inside of Israel.

And make no mistake- Israel is getting absolutely pounded right now- they need this to end more than the Iranians do- which is why Israel has the propaganda control machine at work in full force- hence why the government of Israel has barred citizens from posting any damage on social media and is arresting people for posting videos on social media of destroyed buildings & infrastructure. Mind you this is the same government that has completely barred independent international journalists from covering the war in Gaza because they don't want their war crimes exposed- they are REALLY good at the information control & propaganda thing.

Israel is already over-extended with their wars of aggression and conquest. They are royally fucked if Daddy America does not come bail them out here.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45732 on: June 23, 2025, 02:36:24 PM »
I think it's over unless something else pops up.  Iran had it's "retaliation", for domestic consumption, the US doesn't need to respond.


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45733 on: June 23, 2025, 02:44:06 PM »
I think it's over unless something else pops up.  Iran had it's "retaliation", for domestic consumption, the US doesn't need to respond.
I hope you're right. But if Israel keeps this thing going with Iran they will start to lose badly- and they will need Daddy America to come and save them. I'd rather not.

This is already having negative effects on the world stage to American's reputation. Japan & South Korea were both suppose to be at a NATO summit in The Hague and both have withdrawn in protest over the US bombing of Iran.

Japan and South Korea are actual important allies that the United States mutually benefits greatly from and actually needs on our side in opposition to China. Israel is not. They are a complete drain on the United States of America and a net negative. Full stop. Point blank. Period. We need to ditch them and the sooner the better.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45734 on: June 23, 2025, 02:58:15 PM »
don't forget people like Bible Thumpin' Tel Aviv Ted Cruz and jesus freak Mike Huckabee being close allies of Trump....


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45735 on: June 23, 2025, 03:00:03 PM »
Eh, if Japan and S. Korea want to maintain their sovereignty and not be speaking Mandarin in a decade, then they'll need to continue being allies with the USA.

I don't support the USA bombing Iran, and I understand their imperative to protest it as well, but ultimately they don't really have any choice in the matter.  Unless they're fine with getting on board with the CCP.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45736 on: June 23, 2025, 03:03:29 PM »
this would be amazing but of course it'll NEVER happen because: Israel lobby owns dipshit DC politicians. 

US gov't knows Israel has a stockpile of hundreds of nukes but refuses to acknowledge this fact and Israel refuses to admit this fact because by US law every single red cent of US aid to Israel over the last 59 years would be in grave violation of US law and highly illegal.   


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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45737 on: June 23, 2025, 03:26:40 PM »
Eh, if Japan and S. Korea want to maintain their sovereignty and not be speaking Mandarin in a decade, then they'll need to continue being allies with the USA.

I don't support the USA bombing Iran, and I understand their imperative to protest it as well, but ultimately they don't really have any choice in the matter.  Unless they're fine with getting on board with the CCP.


I pretty sure they don't mind our military bases strategically placed in their countries.

They can pipe down as far as I am concerned.
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