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Topic: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes

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847badgerfan

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45500 on: June 18, 2025, 02:45:07 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 02:36:06 PM
Enriching to 60% is not required for that, and the IAEA caught Iran breaking the rules multiple times before that worthless piece of shit document JCPOA was discarded.

Certainly agree they played with fire and got burned, that's on them.

I'm in favor of the US not being involved in Israel's reaction to that, but here we are.
Exactly.
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Mdot21

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45501 on: June 18, 2025, 02:49:37 PM »
Quote from: utee94 on June 18, 2025, 02:36:06 PM
Enriching to 60% is not required for that, and the IAEA caught Iran breaking the rules multiple times before that worthless piece of shit document JCPOA was discarded.

Certainly agree they played with fire and got burned, that's on them.

I'm in favor of the US not being involved in Israel's reaction to that, but here we are.
JCPOA was not a worthless piece of shit. It was not perfect- but it for the most part was working. Iran was NEVER going to agree to zero enrichment period- which Trump was asking for- that was a non-starter pipe dream.

As Cincy pointed out their argument- which I don't buy btw- is go to 60 and dilute down to 20%. Fact remains they require above 3.57% as they are a top 3 in the world producer & exporter of radiopharmecuticals.

And I can both see why Iran was playing at that threshold and why they would like a nuke. DoD declassified reports in 2009 or 2010 on Iran and stated Iran would like a nuke for deterrent purposes. And it's obvious to see why- they need to only look to their neighbors in the region in Syria, Iraq, and Libya. All 3 of those leaders gave their WMD programs up and got bombed into the stone age, invaded & occupied, overthrown by the American war machine and in the case of Gaddafi raped in the ass with a sword and murdered. They look at North Korea who developed nukes and has never been invaded by America and never will be.

Supreme leader still has a fatwah in place against building a nuke by the way- and Iran cannot start a nuclear weapons program until he decides to reverse that. All that Israel did by kicking this shitstorm off is rally support for the people in Iran around the regime and build support by the people for the regime to want to get a nuke. It was stupid. Monumentally stupid and reckless with diplomacy still very much in play. For fucksakes they were going to meet Sunday.

I have zero faith in humanity. We're all going to die in a nuclear holocaust one day and we kinda deserve imo.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45502 on: June 18, 2025, 02:53:41 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on June 18, 2025, 02:44:29 PM
Prolly not,Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria, and Saudi Arabia, attacked Israel in '48-'49 war and lost

'67 Egypt, Jordan, and Syria war was a decisive victory for Israel, which gained control over the Sinai Peninsula from Egypt, the Gaza Strip and the West Bank from Jordan, and the Golan Heights from Syria. That set the stage for ongoing conflicts and disputes over the occupied territories.

'73 Yom Kippur War, Egypt and Syria launched a surprise attack on Israeli forces occupying their territories captured in the 1967 war. But the Israelis pushed them back and reclaimed all that - at great cost to both sides that lead to peace negotians between Sadat/Begin
those are very different circumstances- and Israel could not just use air superiority- they would have to invade Iran to topple the regime- something their PM has wet dreamed of for 30+ years.....and something that they simply put can not do. 

Iran is a MOTHERFUCKER to invade because of it's geography. Very easy for them to defend. And Israel does not have the ground army to do so. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45503 on: June 18, 2025, 02:54:39 PM »
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45504 on: June 18, 2025, 02:56:08 PM »
Cruz believed this was some kind of comeback, which proves even further what a moron he is.

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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45505 on: June 18, 2025, 02:58:24 PM »
Quote from: jgvol on June 18, 2025, 11:03:53 AM
Bingo.  Hussein - eliminated.  Hamas/Gaza -- eliminated.  Assad/Syria -- eliminated.

Hellloooo IRAN!

It's not, and never was about nukes -- regime change is the name of the game.
yup. the blood thirsty US neo-cons who are more loyal to Israel than they are to their own nation- have been planning this since 1996 when they wrote Bibi an outline on how to accomplish all of this shit called A Clean Break. I encourage everyone to read the document.

And let's not forget General Wesley Clark who said he saw plans from the Pentagon in 2001 and outline to go to war with and topple 7 countries at the behest of Israel. Welp, US has done all 6 on that list of them- except 1. Iran. And the US has wasted tens of TRILLIONS of dollars doing so and hundreds of thousands of human lives. And Iran would BY FAR be the hardest to pull off and the most costly in both dollars and human life. It is a terrible idea and any American who loves his country would be a hard NO on that.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45506 on: June 18, 2025, 03:01:14 PM »
Quote from: Mdot21 on June 18, 2025, 02:53:41 PM
those are very different circumstances- and Israel could not just use air superiority- they would have to invade Iran to topple the regime- something their PM has wet dreamed of for 30+ years.....and something that they simply put can not do.

Iran is a MOTHERFUCKER to invade because of it's geography. Very easy for them to defend. And Israel does not have the ground army to do so.
Hence Air Power and don't think that the CCP or Vlad haven't sent hardware to the Mullah's if you want to bring up Israeli sugardaddy's.

BTW I'm for blowing the whole damn thing up then clean up the mess that's left. But let's do Wash DC 1st,oh and Wall St and Prolly Hollywood if we're going to make a clean sweep of things. See - eazy-peezy
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45507 on: June 18, 2025, 03:05:02 PM »
You can agree or disagree with Tucker, but I don't think you can deny what a skilled debater he is, and how unprepared Cruz was.  The big deal, to me, wasn't that Cruz didn't know the population, but that he got so flustered, he admitted it was a "we" and not "they" in regard to the bombings.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45508 on: June 18, 2025, 03:05:24 PM »
Quote from: FearlessF on June 18, 2025, 11:27:15 AM
why would Tucker care if Cruz had been studying population charts or not?
it has nothing to do with studying population charts. You'd like to think a US Senator who has been calling for US to go to war with Iran would know a thing or two about the country he has been wet dreaming to bomb, invade, and overthrow. 

Ted Cruz is a chickenhawk stupid piece of shit. He doesn't care that Iran has 90+ million population with a very diverse population. Tehran is a city of 17+ million people. Scores of civilians will die in a war. He doesn't care that there would be mass US casualties in any attempted invasion and occupation. Because it's not his kids going to do the fighting and dying. Iran is a MOTHERFUCKER to invade due to it's mountain ranges and deserts. If we thought Iraq was a quagmire- Iraq is childs play compared to Iran. And what comes after we invaded and successfully toppled the regime? Our track record at that SUCKS. Iran could splinter into 3 or 4 different countries there could be mass sectarian violence. 

Ted Cruz does not think about any of this and does not know anything about Iran because well, he's a fucking dipshit.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45509 on: June 18, 2025, 03:07:50 PM »
Quote from: ELA on June 18, 2025, 03:05:02 PM
You can agree or disagree with Tucker, but I don't think you can deny what a skilled debater he is, and how unprepared Cruz was.  The big deal, to me, wasn't that Cruz didn't know the population, but that he got so flustered, he admitted it was a "we" and not "they" in regard to the bombings.
anyone who really pays attention knows we were always deeply involved in these bombing. Cruz was just flustered and dumb enough to admit it on national tv. or national youtube now I guess.
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45510 on: June 18, 2025, 03:10:26 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 18, 2025, 01:13:28 PM
How do they actually believe they could wage an "all-out war" against the US? They can't even defend themselves against Israel. Between these clowns and the rocket man, the delusion is massive.

Iran warns US joining conflict would mean 'all-out war,' refuses demands to give up disputed nuclear program
Iran warns US joining conflict would mean 'all-out war,' refuses demands to give up disputed nuclear program
world leaders bloviate at the mouth with stupid shit. it's a dick measuring contest. have you fucking seen some of the shit our guy says? 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45511 on: June 18, 2025, 03:13:16 PM »
Quote from: MrNubbz on June 17, 2025, 08:32:37 AM
Hope so before they start using germ warfare or even going nuclear
well that would be hard for Iran to do- considering they don't have nuclear weapons and even the lying sack of shit Prime Minister of Israel just admitted as such in the propaganda interview he did on Fox News the other day where he stated and I quote, "Iran is 12 to 13 months away from developing a nuclear weapon". You can forgive the man if his time line is off- he's been saying Iran is weeks or months away from an atom bomb for oh- ONLY 30+ fucking years.

I find it absolutely hysterical and the hypocrisy is astounding that Israel is crying wolf about being bombed in retaliation to something they started- and are crying about nuclear weapons that Iran does not have- when Israel illegally obtained and still posses nuclear weapons- which they deny to this day and the US also denies because according to US law if there was recognition that Israel possessed nuclear weapons than all US aid to Israel would be illegal and have to be cut.

Oh yeah there's also this....



https://twitter.com/mhdksafa/status/1934931942132338707
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45512 on: June 18, 2025, 03:13:54 PM »
Quote from: 847badgerfan on June 18, 2025, 01:31:08 PM
Iran (through one of its many proxies) started this crap on October 7, 2023.
ok I take it back....this is the dumbest shit I've read on here so far. my man, this is just sooooo dumb I don't even know where to begin and I'm shocked because you're a really smart guy. 
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Re: OT-Politics Thread: please TRY to keep it civil, you damned dirty apes
« Reply #45513 on: June 18, 2025, 03:17:30 PM »
just watched another clip of the Ted Cruz interview....he says he supports a foreign government unconditionally no matter what because: the Bible. JFC. 

Then there is this.....Trump retweeting a text he got from his Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee. How are these insane religious nutjobs any different from an AQ/ISIS jihadi? JFC. 


https://twitter.com/martyrmade/status/1934976012129087572
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